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It sounds like he’s part of the Strong Man party and cannot be allowed to be wrong. I don’t think it’s purely political, some people just can’t be reasoned with

It sounds like he’s part of the Strong Man party and cannot be allowed to be wrong. I don’t think it’s purely political, some people just can’t be reasoned with.

inetknght 5y ago
> some people just can’t be reasoned with. It's been eye opening to see and recognize such people on the internet over the past 10 years or so. It's been a lot more scary to be able to recognize the same character flaw in real people I'm physically around.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  I highly recommend this [1] book on the topic as we navigate a post-truth world. The Narcissist's Prayer is also worth a read [2]. It's not all narcissism though; it can be difficult to reason with deeply ingrained belief systems when there is a lack of critical thinking and challenges to the Id and ego, not to mention innate tribalism. EDIT: Agree with the deleted comment that The Narcissist's Prayer could also be The CEO's Prayer, based on the personality type the C suite attracts [3]. [1] https://smile.amazon.com/Narcissist-You-Know-Narcissists-All-About-Me/dp/1476785694 https://smile.amazon.com/Narcissist-You-Know-Narcissists-All... (The Narcissist You Know: Defending Yourself Against Extreme Narcissists in an All-About-Me Age) [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28880280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28880280 [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/08/the-science-behind-why-so-many-successful-millionaires-are-psychopaths-and-why-it-doesnt-have-to-be-a-bad-thing.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/08/the-science-behind-why-so-ma... (1 in 5 business leaders may have psychopathic tendencies—here’s why, according to a psychology professor)
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Animats 5y ago
"The Führer is always right".[1] Robert_Ley, 1941. History has seen this before. It doesn't end well. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip
- mLuby 5y ago
  I wonder if there are moderation tools out there that identify who first proves Godwin's Law in a given thread.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    Godwin amended his law in this particular scenario. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/... > First, let me get this Donald Trump issue out of the way: If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler or Nazis when you talk about Trump. Or any other politician.

It sounds like he’s part of the Strong Man party and cannot be allowed to be wrong. I don’t think it’s purely political, some people just can’t be reasoned with.

inetknght 5y ago

> some people just can’t be reasoned with. It's been eye opening to see and recognize such people on the internet over the past 10 years or so. It's been a lot more scary to be able to recognize the same character flaw in real people I'm physically around.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
I highly recommend this [1] book on the topic as we navigate a post-truth world. The Narcissist's Prayer is also worth a read [2]. It's not all narcissism though; it can be difficult to reason with deeply ingrained belief systems when there is a lack of critical thinking and challenges to the Id and ego, not to mention innate tribalism. EDIT: Agree with the deleted comment that The Narcissist's Prayer could also be The CEO's Prayer, based on the personality type the C suite attracts [3]. [1] https://smile.amazon.com/Narcissist-You-Know-Narcissists-All-About-Me/dp/1476785694 https://smile.amazon.com/Narcissist-You-Know-Narcissists-All... (The Narcissist You Know: Defending Yourself Against Extreme Narcissists in an All-About-Me Age) [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28880280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28880280 [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/08/the-science-behind-why-so-many-successful-millionaires-are-psychopaths-and-why-it-doesnt-have-to-be-a-bad-thing.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/08/the-science-behind-why-so-ma... (1 in 5 business leaders may have psychopathic tendencies—here’s why, according to a psychology professor)
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Animats 5y ago

"The Führer is always right".[1] Robert_Ley, 1941. History has seen this before. It doesn't end well. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip

mLuby 5y ago
I wonder if there are moderation tools out there that identify who first proves Godwin's Law in a given thread.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  Godwin amended his law in this particular scenario. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/... > First, let me get this Donald Trump issue out of the way: If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler or Nazis when you talk about Trump. Or any other politician.