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I think the relevant property is not anonymity, it's accountability. The argument against anonymity is that it will make people more accountable, but that's not
by anyonecancode 5y ago
I think the relevant property is not anonymity, it's accountability. The argument against anonymity is that it will make people more accountable, but that's not always true. Rather, it's the way an online community structures itself.
For instance, here on HN we have the ability to be anonymous (on a sliding scale -- people can say who they are in their profiles, or be completely anonymous, or somewhere in between, posting contact info so that with effort they can be tied to their offline identity). But compared to many online communities, there's very little abuse here, and I'd argue that's because there's accountability -- there are clear standards, and those are enforced both by the moderators and by the community itself. Whether you post as yourself, fully anonymously, or somewhere in between, there's a community standard that hold you accountable for your posts.
I, personally, highly value the ability to have online identities somewhat separate from my offline one. I'm not trying to hide anything, I simply find it freeing to be able to enter a community without dragging around the weight of previous personal history, and to be able to establish an identity specific to that community I'm participating in. I always found this one of the amazing things about the internet, and I've been saddened to see that undermined. At the same time, I absolutely try to be accountable for what I say online, I expect others to hold me to that, and I hold others to that standard. None of this requires I know someone's "real" name, or that they know mine.
- vorpalhex 5y agoPart of why this works on HN is our small size. I will almost certainly bump into you again on here, and likely have before. Prisoner's dilemma is altered when it's a repeated trust action.
- pixelgeek 5y agoBack in the 'olden days' you almost always knew the people in your groups and knew the trolls. Heck you sometimes knew who the trolls in other groups were. Then AOL came and ruined it for everyone. Millions of new people. No-one read the rules and the quality of content went down precipitously. And that news group apocalypse now seems quaint in comparison to Facebook and Twitter.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
- anyonecancode 5y agoOne interesting design choice on HN is that the user names are not very prominent. I often don't even notice them, skipping right past the user name and to the comment. So I do think what you're saying here is partly right, but not completely.
- pixelgeek 5y ago> I think the relevant property is not anonymity, it's accountability. Indeed. There has been quite a bit of discussion in the UK about the lax sentences given to people posting racist comments on social media. The platforms don't seem to take these issues seriously and the courts don't seem to either.