XCode, objective-c/swift and cocoa achieve about the same thing, as long as you follow a basic tutorial. The problem with it is that they do everything ‘the ri

XCode, objective-c/swift and cocoa achieve about the same thing, as long as you follow a basic tutorial. The problem with it is that they do everything ‘the right way’, which is not the easy way. So if you want to show a list of 10 things, you have to implement an interface that would still work fine if the list suddenly had 100000 things. Your documents are supposed to use an interface that has undo/redo all the way. Your interface is created out of components that have built in accessibility and internationalization support. Nobody cares about that when you’re just building a basic app with one form. So getting started is hard.