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YouTube is hiding comments mentioning “OpenStreetMap”

85 points by petschge 5y ago

shadyrudy 5y ago
Weird. I see there are two comments on the video, but I can't see the actual comments. Sorting by top or new doesn't help.
arresthimnow 5y ago
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- TOMDM 5y ago
  What are you actually trying to accomplish with comments like this?
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croes 5y ago
Can't watch it without login.
shrikant 5y ago
Can't replicate, I'm able to comment favourable things about OpenStreetMap[s] on random videos and have it stay up just fine. Edit: I'd expect the video posted to back up its allegation with an example of a non-OpenStreetMap comment that wasn't hidden. Without that, I speculate that it may be some add-on that the user's installed that hides all YouTube comments, perhaps..?
- TOMDM 5y ago
  Or just a bug, or an over-zealous spam filter, or any of a hundred other explanations other than "Google is actively suppressing mentions of OpenStreetMaps in youtube comments in order to maintain dominance of it's own mapping platform" based on a screen recording of one guy posting one comment.
  - pavlo 5y ago
    Plot twist: the post was designed to trick people into testing the functionality and create publicity for OpenStreetMaps ;)
kfprt 5y ago
Once again proving the evils of monopolies. Time to break up Alphabet.
- kjeetgill 5y ago
  > Once again proving I hope you get a chance to come back to this thread and have your presumptions challenged.
  - kfprt 5y ago
    I do not anticipate changing my opinion that monopolies preference their own services to the detriment of market competition. Numerous court cases have born this out.
TOMDM 5y ago
How do we know that this only effects OpenStreetMap comments and isn't just a more general bug? Even if it is, I'd wager it's likely just a poorly trained spam filter rather than some malicious attempt at suppression.
camhart 5y ago
YouTube can flag accounts for spam/promotion. My guess is there's something like that at play where anytime his comment has OpenStreetMaps in it it gets removed.
Urgo 5y ago
Each YouTube creator can create their own custom blacklist of words[1]. That might be what is going on. Or if the account leaving the comment leaves the same comment over and over and over again (or similar ones at least) that might trip the spamfilter algorithm for that account. I tried to replicate this myself and the comment went through just fine so it does not look like OpenStreetMap is banned platform wide. [1] Go to https://studio.youtube.com/ https://studio.youtube.com/ then click on Settings, then Community, then scroll down to "Blocked words". The help for it says "All existing and future comments containing or closely matching these words will be held for review. Live chat messages containing or closely matching these words will be blocked."
rozab 5y ago
I'm not going to make an account to watch this video, but YouTube comments have been broadly broken for at least a year now and I highly doubt this is a wordfilter thing. It often takes weeks for comments to display on new low-traffic videos, and sometimes they just get lost to the ether. The claimed number of comments rarely matches the number which are displayed. On popular videos, comments with the most upvotes (often containing important info) are no longer shown at the top, even when sorting by 'top comments'. And even when they are from the uploader. YouTube uses some other esoteric criteria to decide what you should see. What I'm trying to say is, if you're using YT comments for actual discussion or recording information then you're doing it wrong. They are there to help promote a broad feeling of engagement. It does not matter in the slightest to YT whether every visitor to the page sees the same set of comments, its irrelevant.
- xg15 5y ago
  > They are there to help promote a broad feeling of engagement. I guess by this point they could streamline that process (and avoid a lot of harrassment) by simply generating all comments with GPT3.
lhans 5y ago
Maybe it is just about who is behind as a promoter/sponsor-ads on the kind of content that the video allow or meta-describe, so OpenStreetMap looks like a unfair competitor or kind of. So yeah, once again the esoteric criteria (that rozab mention)

85 points by petschge 5y ago

Weird. I see there are two comments on the video, but I can't see the actual comments. Sorting by top or new doesn't help.

arresthimnow 5y ago

NIH admits Fauci lied to congress and FUNDED COVID-19 https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fauci-lied-knowingly-willfully-and-brazenly-interview-dr-richard-ebright https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fauci-lied-knowingly-willf...

TOMDM 5y ago
What are you actually trying to accomplish with comments like this?

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croes 5y ago

Can't watch it without login.

shrikant 5y ago

Can't replicate, I'm able to comment favourable things about OpenStreetMap[s] on random videos and have it stay up just fine. Edit: I'd expect the video posted to back up its allegation with an example of a non-OpenStreetMap comment that wasn't hidden. Without that, I speculate that it may be some add-on that the user's installed that hides all YouTube comments, perhaps..?

TOMDM 5y ago
Or just a bug, or an over-zealous spam filter, or any of a hundred other explanations other than "Google is actively suppressing mentions of OpenStreetMaps in youtube comments in order to maintain dominance of it's own mapping platform" based on a screen recording of one guy posting one comment.
- pavlo 5y ago
  Plot twist: the post was designed to trick people into testing the functionality and create publicity for OpenStreetMaps ;)

kfprt 5y ago

Once again proving the evils of monopolies. Time to break up Alphabet.

kjeetgill 5y ago
> Once again proving I hope you get a chance to come back to this thread and have your presumptions challenged.
- kfprt 5y ago
  I do not anticipate changing my opinion that monopolies preference their own services to the detriment of market competition. Numerous court cases have born this out.

TOMDM 5y ago

How do we know that this only effects OpenStreetMap comments and isn't just a more general bug? Even if it is, I'd wager it's likely just a poorly trained spam filter rather than some malicious attempt at suppression.

camhart 5y ago

YouTube can flag accounts for spam/promotion. My guess is there's something like that at play where anytime his comment has OpenStreetMaps in it it gets removed.

Urgo 5y ago

Each YouTube creator can create their own custom blacklist of words[1]. That might be what is going on. Or if the account leaving the comment leaves the same comment over and over and over again (or similar ones at least) that might trip the spamfilter algorithm for that account. I tried to replicate this myself and the comment went through just fine so it does not look like OpenStreetMap is banned platform wide. [1] Go to https://studio.youtube.com/ https://studio.youtube.com/ then click on Settings, then Community, then scroll down to "Blocked words". The help for it says "All existing and future comments containing or closely matching these words will be held for review. Live chat messages containing or closely matching these words will be blocked."

rozab 5y ago

I'm not going to make an account to watch this video, but YouTube comments have been broadly broken for at least a year now and I highly doubt this is a wordfilter thing. It often takes weeks for comments to display on new low-traffic videos, and sometimes they just get lost to the ether. The claimed number of comments rarely matches the number which are displayed. On popular videos, comments with the most upvotes (often containing important info) are no longer shown at the top, even when sorting by 'top comments'. And even when they are from the uploader. YouTube uses some other esoteric criteria to decide what you should see. What I'm trying to say is, if you're using YT comments for actual discussion or recording information then you're doing it wrong. They are there to help promote a broad feeling of engagement. It does not matter in the slightest to YT whether every visitor to the page sees the same set of comments, its irrelevant.

xg15 5y ago
> They are there to help promote a broad feeling of engagement. I guess by this point they could streamline that process (and avoid a lot of harrassment) by simply generating all comments with GPT3.

lhans 5y ago

Maybe it is just about who is behind as a promoter/sponsor-ads on the kind of content that the video allow or meta-describe, so OpenStreetMap looks like a unfair competitor or kind of. So yeah, once again the esoteric criteria (that rozab mention)