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This seems to say a lot about you but not so much about others. You're saying your default opinion is that women wouldn't be good at a technical topic. And that

This seems to say a lot about you but not so much about others. You're saying your default opinion is that women wouldn't be good at a technical topic. And that you believe that white people only have two possible opinions coming in to an encounter with a black person: your opinion could be low, or you could be racist. That's a very limited perspective.

AndrewUnmuted 5y ago
Not all people that use this site will have undergone the same sort of intellectual journey into race as those of us in more diverse areas. True tolerance would be to understand that not all people in the HN demographic come from places like the US that are true melting pots. There was no evidence of racist thinking in the OP's remarks, and you don't have to go about suggesting there was to make the point you're attempting to make.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  You don't have to come from a "true melting pot" to know not to be racist. I do believe there was some racism to GP's remarks, that this hypothetical white guy can only make prejudice assumptions.
- shuntress 5y ago
  Being rebuked for saying something ignorant and harmful will just be part of their "intellectual journey".
  - AndrewUnmuted 5y ago
    Look, you are clearly chastising an account whose first language is not English, and for not having penned their remarks in a way that would satisfy the crypto-fascist tendencies of the average tech worker living in SF. You can call what he said ignorant on some level if you read into it enough - why would you, is my question? - but the idea that it is harmful is ridiculous. Your remarks and others calling this guy racist are far more harmful than anything he's said so far. Many of us may be programmers but we should still be able to grok things with more nuance than this.
    - boomboomsubban 5y ago
      >you are clearly chastising an account whose first language is not English Why do you think this? Their spelling and grammar show few obvious mistakes to me, and after reading your comment I looked at their history and they seem to be an American for at least twenty years.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
I also don't see how those are two separate opinions. Having a low opinion of someone based on the color of their skin isn't racism?
Kafkish 5y ago
You're free to deny reality. Trying to keep your head buried in the sand will not change the fact that there's a sky above you.

AndrewUnmuted 5y ago

Not all people that use this site will have undergone the same sort of intellectual journey into race as those of us in more diverse areas. True tolerance would be to understand that not all people in the HN demographic come from places like the US that are true melting pots. There was no evidence of racist thinking in the OP's remarks, and you don't have to go about suggesting there was to make the point you're attempting to make.

hunterb123 5y ago
You don't have to come from a "true melting pot" to know not to be racist. I do believe there was some racism to GP's remarks, that this hypothetical white guy can only make prejudice assumptions.
shuntress 5y ago
Being rebuked for saying something ignorant and harmful will just be part of their "intellectual journey".
- AndrewUnmuted 5y ago
  Look, you are clearly chastising an account whose first language is not English, and for not having penned their remarks in a way that would satisfy the crypto-fascist tendencies of the average tech worker living in SF. You can call what he said ignorant on some level if you read into it enough - why would you, is my question? - but the idea that it is harmful is ridiculous. Your remarks and others calling this guy racist are far more harmful than anything he's said so far. Many of us may be programmers but we should still be able to grok things with more nuance than this.
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    >you are clearly chastising an account whose first language is not English Why do you think this? Their spelling and grammar show few obvious mistakes to me, and after reading your comment I looked at their history and they seem to be an American for at least twenty years.

boomboomsubban 5y ago

I also don't see how those are two separate opinions. Having a low opinion of someone based on the color of their skin isn't racism?

Kafkish 5y ago

You're free to deny reality. Trying to keep your head buried in the sand will not change the fact that there's a sky above you.