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Imposter syndrome is a real thing. When one of my close friends (thankfully) consulted my about his first real job offer I was insulted on his behalf for how ba

by jpgvm 5y ago

Imposter syndrome is a real thing. When one of my close friends (thankfully) consulted my about his first real job offer I was insulted on his behalf for how badly they lowballed him. I immediately referred him and secured him a proper offer. This is important not just because he is my friend but for our whole industry. Many programmers suffer from such afflictions and many hiring managers are more than happy to take advantage of it. If you think your friend is always underselling how good they you should definitely try broach the subject if they are comfortable talking about it and help them realise their worth.

joshstrange 5y ago
> I was insulted on his behalf for how badly they lowballed him I've been there multiple times. Both in offers and in finding out coworkers doing the same job making less (I guess I push a little harder in interviews? Or just ask for more upfront?). When a very good friend and I were both leaving our last company I asked how much he telling recruiters he wanted, it was a meager amount over his current salary and I balked at it then told him to ask for what I was asking for. He ended up taking a job a little under that number but had he applied with his lower number that's all he would have received. > If you think your friend is always underselling how good they you should definitely try broach the subject if they are comfortable talking about it and help them realize their worth. I've done this for multiple people and some people will get it after the first time you talk to them and some of them I have to work on over time. I know it's not "my problem" and I've been told "you can't make people want better for themselves" or "you can't push people to be better if they don't want to be" but I disagree with that. Are there some lost cases? Maybe, I've yet to find one and I wont stop pushing (gently) until they see their market-worth or they ask me to stop. Mind you, this isn't be berating them or telling them they are stupid for making less, far from it, it's me telling them they are underselling themselves and I just want better for them.

by jpgvm 5y ago

joshstrange 5y ago

> I was insulted on his behalf for how badly they lowballed him I've been there multiple times. Both in offers and in finding out coworkers doing the same job making less (I guess I push a little harder in interviews? Or just ask for more upfront?). When a very good friend and I were both leaving our last company I asked how much he telling recruiters he wanted, it was a meager amount over his current salary and I balked at it then told him to ask for what I was asking for. He ended up taking a job a little under that number but had he applied with his lower number that's all he would have received. > If you think your friend is always underselling how good they you should definitely try broach the subject if they are comfortable talking about it and help them realize their worth. I've done this for multiple people and some people will get it after the first time you talk to them and some of them I have to work on over time. I know it's not "my problem" and I've been told "you can't make people want better for themselves" or "you can't push people to be better if they don't want to be" but I disagree with that. Are there some lost cases? Maybe, I've yet to find one and I wont stop pushing (gently) until they see their market-worth or they ask me to stop. Mind you, this isn't be berating them or telling them they are stupid for making less, far from it, it's me telling them they are underselling themselves and I just want better for them.