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But only für employees! As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year.

by progx 5y ago

junon 5y ago
Right, most people are employees though. Germany has another problem though - getting a Steuerberater (tax advisor) to help you with the paperwork as a business owner is next to impossible.
- moooo99 5y ago
  > getting a Steuerberater (tax advisor) to help you with the paperwork as a business owner is next to impossible. Is it really? Are you talking about an advisor for employees or for self-employed people/companies? I was searching for a tax advisor two years ago and it took me exactly one attempt to get one. My parents got an appointment within a month as well. Also, unless there are very specific circumstances there is little to no reason for an employee to get an advisor. Most of my friends just use the ELSTER form provided by the Finanzamt or use tax software the purchased which makes it slightly less painful. But I have no clue about how hard it is for companies
tanto 5y ago
In most cases your tax consultant does that for you and what they charge is regulated.
yisonPylkita 5y ago
I recommend hiring an accountant. For as low as 50€/month I don’t have to worry about filling taxes (I’m programmer on a contract)
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Hamuko 5y ago
According to the World Bank, the self-employed in Germany account for 9.6% of the total employment. So nine out of ten Germans can still avoid filing taxes, which is pretty good. Interestingly enough, the self-employed actually make up a smaller percentage of total employment in the US at 6.1%. So if the US were to adopt a similar system, it'd be closer to 15 out of 16 Americans.
- distances 5y ago
  You only don't have to file if you have a regular job and no other income. Add capital gains, rental income, I think even state parental leave support, and you need to file.
masa331 5y ago
And it makes sense because government might not have all the data even for basic tax filling. On the other hand employees data are already available from various other systems where you have to register them and report and pay social security, taxes, healthcare etc.. I co-own an accounting company in Czech Republic.
raverbashing 5y ago
> But only für employees You mean, most of the people then? > As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year. Well, obviously

But only für employees! As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year.

by progx 5y ago

But only für employees! As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year.

Right, most people are employees though. Germany has another problem though - getting a Steuerberater (tax advisor) to help you with the paperwork as a business owner is next to impossible.

moooo99 5y ago
> getting a Steuerberater (tax advisor) to help you with the paperwork as a business owner is next to impossible. Is it really? Are you talking about an advisor for employees or for self-employed people/companies? I was searching for a tax advisor two years ago and it took me exactly one attempt to get one. My parents got an appointment within a month as well. Also, unless there are very specific circumstances there is little to no reason for an employee to get an advisor. Most of my friends just use the ELSTER form provided by the Finanzamt or use tax software the purchased which makes it slightly less painful. But I have no clue about how hard it is for companies

tanto 5y ago

In most cases your tax consultant does that for you and what they charge is regulated.

yisonPylkita 5y ago

I recommend hiring an accountant. For as low as 50€/month I don’t have to worry about filling taxes (I’m programmer on a contract)

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Hamuko 5y ago

According to the World Bank, the self-employed in Germany account for 9.6% of the total employment. So nine out of ten Germans can still avoid filing taxes, which is pretty good. Interestingly enough, the self-employed actually make up a smaller percentage of total employment in the US at 6.1%. So if the US were to adopt a similar system, it'd be closer to 15 out of 16 Americans.

distances 5y ago
You only don't have to file if you have a regular job and no other income. Add capital gains, rental income, I think even state parental leave support, and you need to file.

masa331 5y ago

And it makes sense because government might not have all the data even for basic tax filling. On the other hand employees data are already available from various other systems where you have to register them and report and pay social security, taxes, healthcare etc.. I co-own an accounting company in Czech Republic.

raverbashing 5y ago

> But only für employees You mean, most of the people then? > As an independent or small company owner you have todo it every year. Well, obviously