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moot (Chris Poole) Conjecture: bind anonymity to ephemerality for best results. Consider ten seconds persistence limit. Like short-term memory for the spoken w

moot (Chris Poole) Conjecture: bind anonymity to ephemerality for best results. Consider ten seconds persistence limit. Like short-term memory for the spoken word.

footlose_3815 5y ago
Yeah, Moot's legacy sure has been doing the world a lot of favors. You sure we should be referencing his logic?
- polartx 5y ago
  I’d choose a world with his legacy over Zuck’s ten times out of ten.
- HamburgerEmoji 5y ago
  4chan and the MSM are both despicable slime pits in their own ways, but 4chan is much more honest. If the corporate media decides some subject is taboo, or that some line of inquiry is banned in order to protect advertisers' profit, you'll still be able to find extremely strong signal about those topics on 4chan.
  - md8z 5y ago
    Anonymous sites like Blind and 4chan (and other semi-anonymous sites like Twitter and its clones) seem to have the same problem but in reverse, where everything is overloaded with negativity and creates that strong signal, even if it's unwarranted. There is a reason conspiracy theories, misinformation, racism, and other cynical rhetoric tend to spread so well on those sites. I think Twitter and Blind have improved their moderation recently... but 4chan seems to always be the same cesspool.
- tlholaday 5y ago
  Yes, I am sure we should be referencing the logic of his proposal, and that we should consider that moot’s implementation of ephemerality on 4chan allowed too much persistence.
lexapro 5y ago
If anything, he has proven that it brings out the absolutely worst.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  It allows for taboo topics which could be the worst if you subscribe society norms. Remember if everyone was anonymous so would personal traits which forces judging on material and people not taking things personally because their real id isn't attach to this idea
  - lexapro 5y ago
    You mean like sharing child sexual abuse material and discussing how to start a race war? Yes, I subscribe to the norm that this is bad.
    - vangelis 5y ago
      that doesn't require an end to anonymity, just decent moderation.
- swayvil 5y ago
  The freedom to do the worst is also the freedom to do the best. That is an unavoidable universal law. Look at instances where the conversation is forced to respect conventional values. It's death. Conformity and moronic mob-politics becomes the norm. So norm that you forget that there was anything better. (Reddit and Facebook are 2 notorious cases of this.) 4chan is sharp and smart. And infantile and vile. And sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. Which is only proper.
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  - lexapro 5y ago
    >4chan is sharp and smart. Well, it can be. But the main boards usually aren't. A lot of smart people have left the platform. What's left is mostly "bad" people who have nowhere else to go: nazis, child molesters, edgy teenagers and so on.

moot (Chris Poole) Conjecture: bind anonymity to ephemerality for best results. Consider ten seconds persistence limit. Like short-term memory for the spoken word.

footlose_3815 5y ago

Yeah, Moot's legacy sure has been doing the world a lot of favors. You sure we should be referencing his logic?

polartx 5y ago
I’d choose a world with his legacy over Zuck’s ten times out of ten.
HamburgerEmoji 5y ago
4chan and the MSM are both despicable slime pits in their own ways, but 4chan is much more honest. If the corporate media decides some subject is taboo, or that some line of inquiry is banned in order to protect advertisers' profit, you'll still be able to find extremely strong signal about those topics on 4chan.
- md8z 5y ago
  Anonymous sites like Blind and 4chan (and other semi-anonymous sites like Twitter and its clones) seem to have the same problem but in reverse, where everything is overloaded with negativity and creates that strong signal, even if it's unwarranted. There is a reason conspiracy theories, misinformation, racism, and other cynical rhetoric tend to spread so well on those sites. I think Twitter and Blind have improved their moderation recently... but 4chan seems to always be the same cesspool.
tlholaday 5y ago
Yes, I am sure we should be referencing the logic of his proposal, and that we should consider that moot’s implementation of ephemerality on 4chan allowed too much persistence.

lexapro 5y ago

If anything, he has proven that it brings out the absolutely worst.

ipaddr 5y ago
It allows for taboo topics which could be the worst if you subscribe society norms. Remember if everyone was anonymous so would personal traits which forces judging on material and people not taking things personally because their real id isn't attach to this idea
- lexapro 5y ago
  You mean like sharing child sexual abuse material and discussing how to start a race war? Yes, I subscribe to the norm that this is bad.
  - vangelis 5y ago
    that doesn't require an end to anonymity, just decent moderation.
swayvil 5y ago
The freedom to do the worst is also the freedom to do the best. That is an unavoidable universal law. Look at instances where the conversation is forced to respect conventional values. It's death. Conformity and moronic mob-politics becomes the norm. So norm that you forget that there was anything better. (Reddit and Facebook are 2 notorious cases of this.) 4chan is sharp and smart. And infantile and vile. And sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. Which is only proper.
- deleted 5y ago
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- lexapro 5y ago
  >4chan is sharp and smart. Well, it can be. But the main boards usually aren't. A lot of smart people have left the platform. What's left is mostly "bad" people who have nowhere else to go: nazis, child molesters, edgy teenagers and so on.