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Well I'm someone who hacks on Linux for a living. What do I do now?

by ylyn 5y ago

konart 5y ago
Well, I've been hacking on Linux for 8 years and been a maintainer for a few packages in AUR so what? Even the way you present yourself here proves my point. This is not an OS for a comfortable life, it's a system for "hacking" (including the system itself). If you still have passion and time for this - cool, most people don't want to spend their days on this.
- krzyk 5y ago
  > If you still have passion and time for this - cool, most people don't want to spend their days on this. Just adding another counterpoint to "MacOs is awsome", anecdotal one, because we don't have any other. My wife (she is not a hacker, just a computer science teacher) hates macos, she preferred Linux. She used the system I setup for her, and I left it alone. She loved it. MacOS is created for average Joe that just browses web and has no clue about anything else (like filesystem, directories). Example: Finder, that thingy can't show you full paths. If you try to get to your home directory to get some files you have to jump hoops. I'm astonished that it is pushed as a developer OS, "because you have 'Linux' there". Sorry, that poor choice of basic utilities (some time ago bash there was ages old), that everyone has to use brew to get anything useful there. Hardware is nice, but OS, is something that you just overwrite while installing Linux.
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > Example: Finder, that thingy can't show you full paths It can > If you try to get to your home directory to get some files you have to jump hoops. You don't > Sorry, that poor choice of basic utilities (some time ago bash there was ages old), that everyone has to use brew to get anything useful there. Ah yes, unlike the great linux where everyone is using apt-get/yum to install anything useful Disclaimer: have used Macs as my primary developer machine since 2008 across 4 industries as both frontend and backend developer in half a dozen different programming languages.
    - krzyk 5y ago
      > Ah yes, unlike the great linux where everyone is using apt-get/yum to install anything useful I wouldn't complain if macos had those utils built into os package manager/appstore, but it does not, one needs to install custom package manager. It is like I would need to install yum on Debian to get apps.
      - konart 5y ago
        You are not complaining, you are trying to find yet another straw.
  - konart 5y ago
    I'm sorry, but this is just funny to say the least. I'm your average software developer when it comes to building software but I'm (and most people are) is your average Joe for the rest of the time. I don't really care if some "outside of job" app is a bit outdated if it performs well. At the same time I do care about my time and I do prefer applications that where carfted with user experience in mind which Linux lacks clearly. >She used the system I setup for her, and I left it alone. She loved it. So she doesn't really loves linux. You just build a kiosk for her. Nice and shiny. Good for her but this has nothing to do with the topic.
AndyPa32 5y ago
I use a AMD Linux machine for work (softfware development). Now I want to setup a second machine for audio production (Pro Tools and Ableton). For that I have the choice between Windows and Linux. Easy choice for me: M1 and MacOS, I certainly won't dabble with Windows.

Well I'm someone who hacks on Linux for a living. What do I do now?

by ylyn 5y ago

Well I'm someone who hacks on Linux for a living. What do I do now?

Well, I've been hacking on Linux for 8 years and been a maintainer for a few packages in AUR so what? Even the way you present yourself here proves my point. This is not an OS for a comfortable life, it's a system for "hacking" (including the system itself). If you still have passion and time for this - cool, most people don't want to spend their days on this.

krzyk 5y ago
> If you still have passion and time for this - cool, most people don't want to spend their days on this. Just adding another counterpoint to "MacOs is awsome", anecdotal one, because we don't have any other. My wife (she is not a hacker, just a computer science teacher) hates macos, she preferred Linux. She used the system I setup for her, and I left it alone. She loved it. MacOS is created for average Joe that just browses web and has no clue about anything else (like filesystem, directories). Example: Finder, that thingy can't show you full paths. If you try to get to your home directory to get some files you have to jump hoops. I'm astonished that it is pushed as a developer OS, "because you have 'Linux' there". Sorry, that poor choice of basic utilities (some time ago bash there was ages old), that everyone has to use brew to get anything useful there. Hardware is nice, but OS, is something that you just overwrite while installing Linux.
- dmitriid 5y ago
  > Example: Finder, that thingy can't show you full paths It can > If you try to get to your home directory to get some files you have to jump hoops. You don't > Sorry, that poor choice of basic utilities (some time ago bash there was ages old), that everyone has to use brew to get anything useful there. Ah yes, unlike the great linux where everyone is using apt-get/yum to install anything useful Disclaimer: have used Macs as my primary developer machine since 2008 across 4 industries as both frontend and backend developer in half a dozen different programming languages.
  - krzyk 5y ago
    > Ah yes, unlike the great linux where everyone is using apt-get/yum to install anything useful I wouldn't complain if macos had those utils built into os package manager/appstore, but it does not, one needs to install custom package manager. It is like I would need to install yum on Debian to get apps.
    - konart 5y ago
      You are not complaining, you are trying to find yet another straw.
- konart 5y ago
  I'm sorry, but this is just funny to say the least. I'm your average software developer when it comes to building software but I'm (and most people are) is your average Joe for the rest of the time. I don't really care if some "outside of job" app is a bit outdated if it performs well. At the same time I do care about my time and I do prefer applications that where carfted with user experience in mind which Linux lacks clearly. >She used the system I setup for her, and I left it alone. She loved it. So she doesn't really loves linux. You just build a kiosk for her. Nice and shiny. Good for her but this has nothing to do with the topic.

AndyPa32 5y ago

I use a AMD Linux machine for work (softfware development). Now I want to setup a second machine for audio production (Pro Tools and Ableton). For that I have the choice between Windows and Linux. Easy choice for me: M1 and MacOS, I certainly won't dabble with Windows.