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> They're expensive What on earth are you talking about? The M1 Air is <$900 if one buys Apple refurbished ...
by noch 5y ago
> They're expensive
What on earth are you talking about? The M1 Air is <$900 if one buys Apple refurbished ...
- shaklee3 5y agoAre you really comparing a refurbished laptop to a new one so you can find a price that matches?
- denlekke 5y agoi got my m1 air new from BB for $750 this summer, good deals do exist
- concinds 5y agoEven if you don't look at refurbished, here in France, a MacBook Air is 1029€ brand new. A comparable ThinkPad X1 Carbon is 2499€ minimum (that's the base model, with 256GB/8GB, but with a high-res screen). A comparable Dell XPS 13 is 1699€ (same, cheapest one with a high-res screen you can buy; though you can't have the high-res screen without buying 512/16GB). The ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (successor to T490, supposed to be the cheap ThinkPad) starts at an astonishing 2156€ for 1080p. That's the very cheapest T14 you can buy, period. I could buy a T450 new for $700 when I was in the US! T14s starts at 2369€, again for 1080p. They keep selling old models so they can still hit lower price points. The cheapest T14 you can buy with a high-res screen comes with 8GB ram, 128GB SSD (WTF?) and costs 3408€ (no, not a joke) or 3548€ if you want a graphics card. HP starts at 1599€ for high-res HP Spectre. Even if you forget the whole "premium laptop thing", I went on the Dell website and asked it to list all high-res 13" laptops: the cheapest is the 1699€ XPS. They don't made high-res Inspirons smaller than 15 inch. I believe the cheapest high-res laptop HP makes is that 1599€ Spectre, though their website is buggy. HP doesn't offer cheaper high-res devices except an 11" Chromebook. These are all the official prices from the official manufacturer website. Even on ok1.de, which has extremely cheap student prices, it's 1499€ for a high-res P14s, 2159€ for the cheapest high-res X1 Carbon, and 2,019€ for the cheapest high-res T14s. And then, we're comparing it to the 900€ student-price MacBook Air. I've researched it for weeks, and there isn't a single premium Windows laptop that matches the MacBook Air on price.
- haspok 5y agoHm, the XPS 13 base model is a bit cheaper than the Air base model (in Austria), the screens are comparable (FHD+ is lower res than Retina, but then 4K is far more, so there is no direct comparison). I do have a 13" XPS and I can tell you, the basic screen (FHD in my case) is more than good enough. But I was just blown away how expensive Lenovo has become. HP has always been expensive. I'm also looking at the fresh Linux laptops, like the TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 14, which are in the same price range and look very compelling, if you are OK with running Linux, that is (I am)...
- concinds 5y agoInteresting, I just went back on the XPS website and the base, 1080p XPS 13 with 11th gen Intel is 1000€ for 512GB. I remember it being much more when I checked this morning. That does seem like a great price. I think I found the issue: when you select the 13" from the products page, it shows 1000€, but if you select it, then switch the configurator to the 2-in-1 13", and then switch back the 11th gen 13", the base model with 256GB now costs 1400€. That website bug cost Dell a sale, since I would have definitely bought it instead of the M1 Air if I had seen the real price. What a shame! Funnily enough also, when I configure it with 4K, then switch back to 1080p and switch every option back, it costs 1050€ instead of 1000€ for the exact same config.