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India Counting Down to 1B Doses

112 points by neelkadia 5y ago

skocznymroczny 5y ago
Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.
- WalterGR 5y ago
  > It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries. Only one country has reached 90%. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations How is the UAE doing compared to other countries?
  - krishvs 5y ago
    I was in the Uae for 5 days last week and travelling again tomorrow. For me it looks like pre-covid times - everything is open. Cricket matches in stadiums to dubai expo. They report < 100 cases per day but no one really believes those numbers to be true. Mask wearing( atleast properly ) was maybe 40-50%. Countries like Oman with lower vaccination rates felt much safer because everyone seemed to take mask wearing much more seriously.
  - revax 5y ago
    In my country (France) only +12yo are eligible for the vaccination and we are currently at 86.1% fully vaccinated in this population (88.3% with at least one dose). Are we talking about the whole population or only eligible people?
    - WalterGR 5y ago
      Great question. I haven’t checked the methodology of the site I linked.
prvc 5y ago
The number of doses administered should be not decrease as time increases.
Lapsa 5y ago
Citizens Fully Vaccinated NaN Crore + NaN Lakh
- known 5y ago
  21%
amriksohata 5y ago
well done india
crummy 5y ago
A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?
- addicted 5y ago
  Yes. Indians don’t usually break numbers down by the thousands. After thousand, numbers are usually grouped by the hundreds. So, for example, Indians usually use: Number: Indian Term/Others 1000: Thousand/Thousand 100,000: Lac/Hundred Thousand 1,000,000: 10 Lac/Million 1,00,00,000: Crore/Ten Million and so on…
- ra7 5y ago
  It’s the Indian numeral system: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system
- deepakkarki 5y ago
  Yes, India doesn't use millions and billions, but lakhs and crores. 10 lakh = 1 million 100 lakh = 1 crore
- kumarvvr 5y ago
  Yes. 100 - Hundred 1,000 - Thousand 1,00,000 - Lakh 1,00,00,000 - Crore We don't use millions here.
- gigglesupstairs 5y ago
  Yes, Indian Numeral System is different. Thousand is Thousand. Hundred Thousand is 1 Lakh. 1 Million is 10 Lakhs. 10 Million is 1 Crore. 1 Billion is 100 Crores.
- OJFord 5y ago
  The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English (*thousand, million, billion, and so on) but by thousand (hazaar), hundred thousand (lakh), ten million (crore), and I don't know what next. So the comma separation reflects the words, as in English. > 38,625 38 hazaar ... Vs. 38 thousand ... > 13,38,625 vs. 1,338,625 13 lakh ... Vs. 1.3 million ... > 1,00,13,38,625 vs. 1,001,338,625 100 crore Vs. 1.0 billion This would no doubt be an entry in a hypothetical 'falsehoods programmers believe about numbers'! I.e. use things like Intl.NumberFormat in the browser, rather than home-grown 'group 3 digits and insert a comma then join again'. (* yes, I'm going to conveniently ignore 'hundred' and its occasional/domain use like 'twelve hundred'.)
tpmx 5y ago
Precular design choice to change the aspect ratio of the main graphic/photo based on the browser window width.
- neals 5y ago
  background-size : cover / contain ... why not both?
- RicoElectrico 5y ago
  Why do people make such mistakes in 2021? Who thought it's going to look OK?
- account42 5y ago
  They do actually adjust the height at fixed breakpoints to keep the aspect ratio somewhat stable - not a perfect solution, but they tried. To be fair, browser designers really dragged their feet on adding a proper CSS solution for full-width content with a fixed aspect ratio. And even now, what we have is hardly as simple as it could be.
LordAtlas 5y ago
Please note this is total doses, i.e., adding up people who've got the first dose and the second dose, so it's double-counting people who've got both. The more accurate number is 290 million, which is how many people have got both doses. Our population is 1.3 billion, so we're still a long way away. https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/ https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/
- bayesian_horse 5y ago
  Still quite respectacle, if not impressive. And every dose, be it the first or the second, has to be produced, bought, shipped and administered to a Human being who has been convinced to take it...
- NilayK 5y ago
  290 million fully vaccinated and 1,390 million total population. :) [1 crore = 10 million]
  - sampo 5y ago
    3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity (this is true for many other vaccines as well). 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year.
    - helge9210 5y ago
      > 3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity Did you mean antibody count? > 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year Purely administrative decision
- kumarvvr 5y ago
  India's population is 1.3 Billion. 26.16% of that are children. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/271315/age-distribution-in-india/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/271315/age-distribution-...) So, about 1 Billion require 2 doses of vaccination. Out of that 1 Billion are almost done. A long way to go, but an impressive journey so far.
xony 5y ago
fake
ing33k 5y ago
wow, the website has a link to OpenAPI https://apisetu.gov.in/api/cowin https://apisetu.gov.in/api/cowin Nice !
- rathish_g 5y ago
  Open APIs : https://apisetu.gov.in/ https://apisetu.gov.in/ Datasets : https://data.gov.in/ https://data.gov.in/ Attendance of all government employees : https://attendance.gov.in/ https://attendance.gov.in/
ghoomketu 5y ago
Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.
- amriksohata 5y ago
  He doesn't get hate in India, quite the opposite he has a large electoral mandate.
- paxys 5y ago
  Modi's photo is the largest thing on that page, and on every vaccine card. Lack of credit is never his problem.
  - webmobdev 5y ago
    Modi Only World Leader to Use COVID Vaccination Certificate to Push Cult of Personality - https://thewire.in/government/india-only-nation-to-use-covid-vaccination-certificate-to-push-cult-of-leader-ruling-party https://thewire.in/government/india-only-nation-to-use-covid...
  - vadfa 5y ago
    I have always found that amusing. What a god complex that guy has. But hey if it works it works.
    - bwb 5y ago
      It doesn't work so well for muslims in India... https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/21/india-muslims-deported-terrified-citizenship-amendment-act-caa/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/21/india-muslims-deported-... https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/india https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/india
      - samarthr1 5y ago
        I think you may find that when illegal migrants get deported, the security of the nation improves... I live in Hyderabad, the place where the Dilsukhnagar blasts happened. Don't remember hearing of any major jihadist attacks on the past seven years or so... Success of a government no?
jayp1418 5y ago
Congratulations. Nice work.
ghostcluster 5y ago
By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/china/ https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...
- tpm 5y ago
  And the EU administered about 580 million doses while exporting 1 billion: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-has-exported-over-1-billion-covid-19-vaccines-since-start-rollout-2021-10-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-has-exported-over-1-...
- blueblisters 5y ago
  1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?
  - bildung 5y ago
    They say because they still maintain a zero covid strategy for the foreseeable future: https://time.com/6104303/china-zero-covid/ https://time.com/6104303/china-zero-covid/ As far as I have read China heavily locks down regions if covid flares emerge, tests everyone in the region within a few days, then opens everything up less than a week later. This doesn't fit to the way more laissez-faire approach in the West.
  - anaganisk 5y ago
    Maybe they’re not yet done with covering up or don’t want investigative journalists
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    > 1B is very impressive Those are Sino* vaccines, which are only about 51% effective. (WHO considers 50% to be ineffective.)
ewarstdyfg 5y ago
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- tdeck 5y ago
  I see you made a new account because you knew this was a terrible thing to write.
  - wtereyr 5y ago
    [dead]
calltrak 5y ago
lots of great information about the killshots up on https://bitchute.com https://bitchute.com. You could not pay me to take that poison.
eynsham 5y ago
The union government claims here and elsewhere that it is administering ‘the world’s largest vaccination drive’. I wish it were true. But China is far ahead.⁰ The website also remarks on a ‘world record of 2.5 Cr+ Vaccinations in a day’: China has reached nearly 3 crore (=30 million) as a weekly mean.¹ Vaccination was an opportunity to shine in comparison to China, but the union government seems to have moved rather slowly (not a fault unique to it): > India’s daily vaccinations surpassed 10 million doses on Friday, with national vaccine production more than doubling since April and set to rise again in the coming weeks.² 0: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinat... 1: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccination-doses https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccinatio... 2: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/30/india-covid-vaccine-supply-export https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/30/india-covid-vaccine...
- mckirk 5y ago
  I believe this is the graph you want: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-p... Yes, China is far ahead of India, but Cuba, the UAE and Urugay are far ahead of China.
  - freddie_mercury 5y ago
    That's not an especially useful comparison, though. Cuba and the UAE combined are about the same population as Wuhan, which is a city nobody had even heard of 2 years ago. Not to discount their success but small countries will always have an easier job than larger ones, since geographic and population scales make everything harder. I'm pretty sure you can find municipalities of 10-20 million people in China that are more vaccinated that UAE or Cuba.
    - mckirk 5y ago
      It's a vastly more useful comparison than simply going by absolute numbers, though. A larger country will have more people to vaccinate, but also more infrastructure to get this done. If you want to compare countries by how well they are able to vaccinate their population, doses-per-capita is exactly the measure you want.
option_greek 5y ago
As per the serology report that comes out once in a while that uses random sampling, most cities/towns/places have 60-70% people already having anti bodies. It is assumed that almost everyone acquired immunity due to infection at this point in India. However, there is almost no antivax moment as such in India so vaccination will continue throttled only by the availability (with 3 more companies nearing approvals for their new vaccines). Vaccines at this point are serving the same purpose as a booster shot (with the long duration between the shots probably helping).
Camillo 5y ago
> India Counting Down to 1B Doses Misleading, disingenuous, mendacious title. They're clearly counting _up_.
niranjanbalu13 5y ago
At least 5% of this data is bogus. I know 6 people who didn't get the dose but got a confirmation sms and I know very few people
- yeshok 5y ago
  And, I know a few people who were vaccinated, but the dose did not get registered. In some cases, this was purposefully done - so that they could get the dose while they were below the age floor (at that time). In other cases, this was accidental - the hospital staff simply neglected to put it into the system, and no one cared.
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sidpatil 5y ago
Shouldn't that be "counting up"?
1cvmask 5y ago
This is very impressive that they got to this level despite starting late due to the Joe Biden vaccine raw materials embargo on India: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-serum-idUSKBN2C30ZS https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-...

112 points by neelkadia 5y ago

Proponents of vaccines claim that we have to vaccinate most people and then we can 'go back to normal'. Is there any country with high vaccination rate that has gone back to normal? By normal I'd assume no mask mandates, outdoor or indoor, no vaccine passports of any kind. It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries.

WalterGR 5y ago
> It seems that even the countries that are over 90% vaccinated are still struggling just as much as the other countries. Only one country has reached 90%. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations How is the UAE doing compared to other countries?
- krishvs 5y ago
  I was in the Uae for 5 days last week and travelling again tomorrow. For me it looks like pre-covid times - everything is open. Cricket matches in stadiums to dubai expo. They report < 100 cases per day but no one really believes those numbers to be true. Mask wearing( atleast properly ) was maybe 40-50%. Countries like Oman with lower vaccination rates felt much safer because everyone seemed to take mask wearing much more seriously.
- revax 5y ago
  In my country (France) only +12yo are eligible for the vaccination and we are currently at 86.1% fully vaccinated in this population (88.3% with at least one dose). Are we talking about the whole population or only eligible people?
  - WalterGR 5y ago
    Great question. I haven’t checked the methodology of the site I linked.

prvc 5y ago

The number of doses administered should be not decrease as time increases.

Lapsa 5y ago

Citizens Fully Vaccinated NaN Crore + NaN Lakh

known 5y ago
21%

amriksohata 5y ago

well done india

crummy 5y ago

A bit odd topic but the commas seem strange in the numbers there: >Total Vaccination Doses: 1,00,13,38,625 Is that an Indian thing?

addicted 5y ago
Yes. Indians don’t usually break numbers down by the thousands. After thousand, numbers are usually grouped by the hundreds. So, for example, Indians usually use: Number: Indian Term/Others 1000: Thousand/Thousand 100,000: Lac/Hundred Thousand 1,000,000: 10 Lac/Million 1,00,00,000: Crore/Ten Million and so on…
ra7 5y ago
It’s the Indian numeral system: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system
deepakkarki 5y ago
Yes, India doesn't use millions and billions, but lakhs and crores. 10 lakh = 1 million 100 lakh = 1 crore
kumarvvr 5y ago
Yes. 100 - Hundred 1,000 - Thousand 1,00,000 - Lakh 1,00,00,000 - Crore We don't use millions here.
gigglesupstairs 5y ago
Yes, Indian Numeral System is different. Thousand is Thousand. Hundred Thousand is 1 Lakh. 1 Million is 10 Lakhs. 10 Million is 1 Crore. 1 Billion is 100 Crores.
OJFord 5y ago
The words for the orders of magnitude don't group by thousand like in English (*thousand, million, billion, and so on) but by thousand (hazaar), hundred thousand (lakh), ten million (crore), and I don't know what next. So the comma separation reflects the words, as in English. > 38,625 38 hazaar ... Vs. 38 thousand ... > 13,38,625 vs. 1,338,625 13 lakh ... Vs. 1.3 million ... > 1,00,13,38,625 vs. 1,001,338,625 100 crore Vs. 1.0 billion This would no doubt be an entry in a hypothetical 'falsehoods programmers believe about numbers'! I.e. use things like Intl.NumberFormat in the browser, rather than home-grown 'group 3 digits and insert a comma then join again'. (* yes, I'm going to conveniently ignore 'hundred' and its occasional/domain use like 'twelve hundred'.)

tpmx 5y ago

Precular design choice to change the aspect ratio of the main graphic/photo based on the browser window width.

neals 5y ago
background-size : cover / contain ... why not both?
RicoElectrico 5y ago
Why do people make such mistakes in 2021? Who thought it's going to look OK?
account42 5y ago
They do actually adjust the height at fixed breakpoints to keep the aspect ratio somewhat stable - not a perfect solution, but they tried. To be fair, browser designers really dragged their feet on adding a proper CSS solution for full-width content with a fixed aspect ratio. And even now, what we have is hardly as simple as it could be.

LordAtlas 5y ago

Please note this is total doses, i.e., adding up people who've got the first dose and the second dose, so it's double-counting people who've got both. The more accurate number is 290 million, which is how many people have got both doses. Our population is 1.3 billion, so we're still a long way away. https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/ https://dashboard.cowin.gov.in/

bayesian_horse 5y ago
Still quite respectacle, if not impressive. And every dose, be it the first or the second, has to be produced, bought, shipped and administered to a Human being who has been convinced to take it...
NilayK 5y ago
290 million fully vaccinated and 1,390 million total population. :) [1 crore = 10 million]
- sampo 5y ago
  3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity (this is true for many other vaccines as well). 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year.
  - helge9210 5y ago
    > 3rd doses are coming, and seem to give a good and needed additional boost to immunity Did you mean antibody count? > 2 doses won't be "fully vaccinated" after one more year Purely administrative decision
kumarvvr 5y ago
India's population is 1.3 Billion. 26.16% of that are children. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/271315/age-distribution-in-india/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/271315/age-distribution-...) So, about 1 Billion require 2 doses of vaccination. Out of that 1 Billion are almost done. A long way to go, but an impressive journey so far.

xony 5y ago

fake

ing33k 5y ago

wow, the website has a link to OpenAPI https://apisetu.gov.in/api/cowin https://apisetu.gov.in/api/cowin Nice !

rathish_g 5y ago
Open APIs : https://apisetu.gov.in/ https://apisetu.gov.in/ Datasets : https://data.gov.in/ https://data.gov.in/ Attendance of all government employees : https://attendance.gov.in/ https://attendance.gov.in/

ghoomketu 5y ago

Modi govt gets a lot of hate in India but we should also give credit where it is due, like for this. An indecisive leader or one heading a coalition govt probably couldn't have done it like this.

amriksohata 5y ago
He doesn't get hate in India, quite the opposite he has a large electoral mandate.
paxys 5y ago
Modi's photo is the largest thing on that page, and on every vaccine card. Lack of credit is never his problem.
- webmobdev 5y ago
  Modi Only World Leader to Use COVID Vaccination Certificate to Push Cult of Personality - https://thewire.in/government/india-only-nation-to-use-covid-vaccination-certificate-to-push-cult-of-leader-ruling-party https://thewire.in/government/india-only-nation-to-use-covid...
- vadfa 5y ago
  I have always found that amusing. What a god complex that guy has. But hey if it works it works.
  - bwb 5y ago
    It doesn't work so well for muslims in India... https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/21/india-muslims-deported-terrified-citizenship-amendment-act-caa/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/21/india-muslims-deported-... https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/india https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/india
    - samarthr1 5y ago
      I think you may find that when illegal migrants get deported, the security of the nation improves... I live in Hyderabad, the place where the Dilsukhnagar blasts happened. Don't remember hearing of any major jihadist attacks on the past seven years or so... Success of a government no?

jayp1418 5y ago

Congratulations. Nice work.

ghostcluster 5y ago

By way of comparison, China has administered at least 2,232,088,000 doses of COVID vaccines so far https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/china/ https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m...

tpm 5y ago
And the EU administered about 580 million doses while exporting 1 billion: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-has-exported-over-1-billion-covid-19-vaccines-since-start-rollout-2021-10-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-has-exported-over-1-...
blueblisters 5y ago
1B is very impressive but more than twice that in the same time really puts the capacity, scale and reach of the Chinese State at a different level. Still I am curious why China is not opening up the borders to visitors?
- bildung 5y ago
  They say because they still maintain a zero covid strategy for the foreseeable future: https://time.com/6104303/china-zero-covid/ https://time.com/6104303/china-zero-covid/ As far as I have read China heavily locks down regions if covid flares emerge, tests everyone in the region within a few days, then opens everything up less than a week later. This doesn't fit to the way more laissez-faire approach in the West.
- anaganisk 5y ago
  Maybe they’re not yet done with covering up or don’t want investigative journalists
- deleted 5y ago
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- redis_mlc 5y ago
  > 1B is very impressive Those are Sino* vaccines, which are only about 51% effective. (WHO considers 50% to be ineffective.)

ewarstdyfg 5y ago

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tdeck 5y ago
I see you made a new account because you knew this was a terrible thing to write.
- wtereyr 5y ago
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calltrak 5y ago

lots of great information about the killshots up on https://bitchute.com https://bitchute.com. You could not pay me to take that poison.

eynsham 5y ago

The union government claims here and elsewhere that it is administering ‘the world’s largest vaccination drive’. I wish it were true. But China is far ahead.⁰ The website also remarks on a ‘world record of 2.5 Cr+ Vaccinations in a day’: China has reached nearly 3 crore (=30 million) as a weekly mean.¹ Vaccination was an opportunity to shine in comparison to China, but the union government seems to have moved rather slowly (not a fault unique to it): > India’s daily vaccinations surpassed 10 million doses on Friday, with national vaccine production more than doubling since April and set to rise again in the coming weeks.² 0: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-vaccinat... 1: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccination-doses https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-19-vaccinatio... 2: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/30/india-covid-vaccine-supply-export https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/30/india-covid-vaccine...

mckirk 5y ago
I believe this is the graph you want: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-p... Yes, China is far ahead of India, but Cuba, the UAE and Urugay are far ahead of China.
- freddie_mercury 5y ago
  That's not an especially useful comparison, though. Cuba and the UAE combined are about the same population as Wuhan, which is a city nobody had even heard of 2 years ago. Not to discount their success but small countries will always have an easier job than larger ones, since geographic and population scales make everything harder. I'm pretty sure you can find municipalities of 10-20 million people in China that are more vaccinated that UAE or Cuba.
  - mckirk 5y ago
    It's a vastly more useful comparison than simply going by absolute numbers, though. A larger country will have more people to vaccinate, but also more infrastructure to get this done. If you want to compare countries by how well they are able to vaccinate their population, doses-per-capita is exactly the measure you want.

option_greek 5y ago

As per the serology report that comes out once in a while that uses random sampling, most cities/towns/places have 60-70% people already having anti bodies. It is assumed that almost everyone acquired immunity due to infection at this point in India. However, there is almost no antivax moment as such in India so vaccination will continue throttled only by the availability (with 3 more companies nearing approvals for their new vaccines). Vaccines at this point are serving the same purpose as a booster shot (with the long duration between the shots probably helping).

Camillo 5y ago

> India Counting Down to 1B Doses Misleading, disingenuous, mendacious title. They're clearly counting _up_.

niranjanbalu13 5y ago

At least 5% of this data is bogus. I know 6 people who didn't get the dose but got a confirmation sms and I know very few people

yeshok 5y ago
And, I know a few people who were vaccinated, but the dose did not get registered. In some cases, this was purposefully done - so that they could get the dose while they were below the age floor (at that time). In other cases, this was accidental - the hospital staff simply neglected to put it into the system, and no one cared.

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sidpatil 5y ago

Shouldn't that be "counting up"?

1cvmask 5y ago

This is very impressive that they got to this level despite starting late due to the Joe Biden vaccine raw materials embargo on India: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-serum-idUSKBN2C30ZS https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-...