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Apple changed my life twice. First they introduced me to structured and functional way of thinking about designing UI (with old MacOS X HIG). Practically gave

by nbzso 5y ago

Apple changed my life twice. First they introduced me to structured and functional way of thinking about designing UI (with old MacOS X HIG). Practically gave start of my career with this. And in the last several years in series of decisions they forced me to completely revision my view of what hardware and software I use for my personal and professional computing. The power of industrial design is still with them (almost tempted me to fall again in the rabbit hole with the new MacBook Pro), happily for me they are run by marketing and never ending expansion, not by product people, and as a result regularly they produce utter crap - mouse with charging port under the body, faulty laptop keyboards, the thrash can, and now the notch. So I dodged "the bullet".:) On a more different level of thought, we as consumers rarely take a moment to think about the implications of creating a monopolistic monsters and how this relates to our future as a professionals or individuals. DMCA will never be reformed with balance in mind. More likely will be transformed towards version 2 with more power for the corporations.

oceanghost 5y ago
As a curiosity what are you buying nowadays? I have a 4-year-old iPhone 10 Because I'm equally unhappy with Google as Apple. I have an Alienware laptop that I absolutely DESPISE because the MacBooks were a joke at the time I needed a laptop. Fundamentally I have a problem with Apple soldering wear items and replaceable parts to the motherboard. But the Alienware is just unreliable. But, so were the butterfly keyboards of the MacBooks.
- tonny747 5y ago
  Have you seen these laptops: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/?
  - oceanghost 5y ago
    Yea. Louis Rossman gave them a glowing review. They will probably be my next purchase.
- nbzso 5y ago
  My solution is to invest more in custom PC builds (for the company) and after my recently refurbished MacBook Pro (2013/core i7/16gb ram/500 gb ssd/all the ports/ Manjaro) dies - Framework laptop. By using a laptop as a mobile computer and dedicated powerful PC as a desktop I actually can ignore Apple chip advancements. On a smartphone level, my personal solution is to use flip phone for calls and DeGoogled Android for necessary apps. In the next 3 years I plan to move to Talos workstation (https://bit.ly/3lY6fpc https://bit.ly/3lY6fpc).
ls15 5y ago
> On a more different level of thought, we as consumers rarely take a moment to think about the implications of creating a monopolistic monsters and how this relates to our future as a professionals or individuals. I would paraphrase "rarely take a moment to think about" with "actively ignore" here. At least that is my experience with most people whenever I bring such topics up.
dylan604 5y ago
>now the notch. I was going along with you until this. I'm quite happy with the upcoming notch on the new MBP. If I can get extra height out of my screen by the height of the menu bar, then I consider that a win. My current menu bar contains nothing in the center where the notch will be, so I am losing nothing. The gain in screen height will be most welcome.
- nbzso 5y ago
  Be happy.:) This is my use-case. I am sure that even designers will adapt, just because. It works for you, but I cannot live with this abomination in my face, the gain in screen height is removed when you use your app in full-screen. I have a very sensitive eyes, this is part of my main workflow as a designer. When designing my eyes are all over the screen and this shape will attract attention even when is "hidden" by os. But I totally understand, when coding I rarely look above the horizontal line of the screen (my favorite short-key: C-l). P.S. There is another reason: I am spoiled from years of using nearly flawless Apple products, I cannot tolerate such design imperfection.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    It seems like things are looking up as they keep releasing things where Ive is no longer mucking things up.
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  - zimpenfish 5y ago
    > the gain in screen height is removed when you use your app in full-screen. But then you've lost nothing from the previous Macbook, right? And as far as I can tell without seeing one of the new ones live, it'll just look the same as the old bezel in full-screen - a thick black strip across the top, no?
    - nbzso 5y ago

by nbzso 5y ago

oceanghost 5y ago

As a curiosity what are you buying nowadays? I have a 4-year-old iPhone 10 Because I'm equally unhappy with Google as Apple. I have an Alienware laptop that I absolutely DESPISE because the MacBooks were a joke at the time I needed a laptop. Fundamentally I have a problem with Apple soldering wear items and replaceable parts to the motherboard. But the Alienware is just unreliable. But, so were the butterfly keyboards of the MacBooks.

tonny747 5y ago
Have you seen these laptops: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/?
- oceanghost 5y ago
  Yea. Louis Rossman gave them a glowing review. They will probably be my next purchase.
nbzso 5y ago
My solution is to invest more in custom PC builds (for the company) and after my recently refurbished MacBook Pro (2013/core i7/16gb ram/500 gb ssd/all the ports/ Manjaro) dies - Framework laptop. By using a laptop as a mobile computer and dedicated powerful PC as a desktop I actually can ignore Apple chip advancements. On a smartphone level, my personal solution is to use flip phone for calls and DeGoogled Android for necessary apps. In the next 3 years I plan to move to Talos workstation (https://bit.ly/3lY6fpc https://bit.ly/3lY6fpc).

ls15 5y ago

> On a more different level of thought, we as consumers rarely take a moment to think about the implications of creating a monopolistic monsters and how this relates to our future as a professionals or individuals. I would paraphrase "rarely take a moment to think about" with "actively ignore" here. At least that is my experience with most people whenever I bring such topics up.

dylan604 5y ago

>now the notch. I was going along with you until this. I'm quite happy with the upcoming notch on the new MBP. If I can get extra height out of my screen by the height of the menu bar, then I consider that a win. My current menu bar contains nothing in the center where the notch will be, so I am losing nothing. The gain in screen height will be most welcome.

nbzso 5y ago
Be happy.:) This is my use-case. I am sure that even designers will adapt, just because. It works for you, but I cannot live with this abomination in my face, the gain in screen height is removed when you use your app in full-screen. I have a very sensitive eyes, this is part of my main workflow as a designer. When designing my eyes are all over the screen and this shape will attract attention even when is "hidden" by os. But I totally understand, when coding I rarely look above the horizontal line of the screen (my favorite short-key: C-l). P.S. There is another reason: I am spoiled from years of using nearly flawless Apple products, I cannot tolerate such design imperfection.
- dylan604 5y ago
  It seems like things are looking up as they keep releasing things where Ive is no longer mucking things up.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  > the gain in screen height is removed when you use your app in full-screen. But then you've lost nothing from the previous Macbook, right? And as far as I can tell without seeing one of the new ones live, it'll just look the same as the old bezel in full-screen - a thick black strip across the top, no?
  - nbzso 5y ago