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> Levels.fyi In my experience sites like that are only good for a few months of popularity before they start getting too much gamification and/or corruption.

> Levels.fyi In my experience sites like that are only good for a few months of popularity before they start getting too much gamification and/or corruption. Given how old and popular levels.fyi is now, how can we know that it still provides a good reference point?

zuhayeer 5y ago
We actually don't gate any of our data on the site so there's not really much gamification (you can even view each individual data point [1] if you wish). If you find some value from using the site, our hope is then you might want to contribute back, and if not that's okay too – you're still welcome to use and benefit from the site. We do encourage users in various places to contribute, but it's still entirely optional. That means less spammy data points since we remove the incentive to submit if you don't want to. That said, we do a variety of things to validate our data including manual review / a community reporting feature, as well as collecting proof docs such as W2s and offer letters [2] to validate the rest of our crowdsourced data. We also now have a negotiation service [3] to help candidates increase their offers which exposes us to how the market is today, and what compensation looks like in real time everyday. Of course, we welcome any feedback that could help us make the data better and more accurate over time. We're currently working on tighter time ranges (if data is available for a particular company or region) to calculate our aggregate values such as averages, medians, etc. [1] - https://levels.fyi/comp.html https://levels.fyi/comp.html [2] - https://levels.fyi/verified/ https://levels.fyi/verified/ [3] - https://levels.fyi/services/ https://levels.fyi/services/
Apocryphon 5y ago
I agree with your overall point, but their submission vetting process is at least less automated than say Glassdoor: https://www.levels.fyi/addcomp.html https://www.levels.fyi/addcomp.html

zuhayeer 5y ago

We actually don't gate any of our data on the site so there's not really much gamification (you can even view each individual data point [1] if you wish). If you find some value from using the site, our hope is then you might want to contribute back, and if not that's okay too – you're still welcome to use and benefit from the site. We do encourage users in various places to contribute, but it's still entirely optional. That means less spammy data points since we remove the incentive to submit if you don't want to. That said, we do a variety of things to validate our data including manual review / a community reporting feature, as well as collecting proof docs such as W2s and offer letters [2] to validate the rest of our crowdsourced data. We also now have a negotiation service [3] to help candidates increase their offers which exposes us to how the market is today, and what compensation looks like in real time everyday. Of course, we welcome any feedback that could help us make the data better and more accurate over time. We're currently working on tighter time ranges (if data is available for a particular company or region) to calculate our aggregate values such as averages, medians, etc. [1] - https://levels.fyi/comp.html https://levels.fyi/comp.html [2] - https://levels.fyi/verified/ https://levels.fyi/verified/ [3] - https://levels.fyi/services/ https://levels.fyi/services/

Apocryphon 5y ago

I agree with your overall point, but their submission vetting process is at least less automated than say Glassdoor: https://www.levels.fyi/addcomp.html https://www.levels.fyi/addcomp.html