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The chief political risks are from the USA, not China: https://cleantechnica.com/2021/10/19/president-bidens-pick-for-an-nhtsa-safety-advisor-raises-concerns-a

The chief political risks are from the USA, not China: https://cleantechnica.com/2021/10/19/president-bidens-pick-for-an-nhtsa-safety-advisor-raises-concerns-about-anti-tesla-bias/ https://cleantechnica.com/2021/10/19/president-bidens-pick-f... https://electrek.co/2021/09/29/elon-musk-calls-out-biden-controlled-by-unions-after-tesla-snubbed-ev-summit/ https://electrek.co/2021/09/29/elon-musk-calls-out-biden-con...

systemvoltage 5y ago
> “Biden held this EV summit. Didn’t invite Tesla. Invited GM, Ford, Chrysler, and UAW. EV summit at the White House, didn’t mention Tesla once and praised GM and Ford for leading the EV revolution. Doesn’t it sound a little bias? It’s not the friendliest of administrations. Seems to be controlled by the unions.” Wow.
- phatfish 5y ago
  You need an ego the size of the sun to expect everything to revolve around you, so it makes sense at least.
  - simondotau 5y ago
    Imagine if someone was doing an analysis of chip fabrication in the USA and never once mentioned Intel, pretending they didn’t exist.
  - adoxyz 5y ago
    There's plenty of things to shit on Tesla and Elon with, but I think this is the wrong take in this particular instance. Not inviting Tesla to the EV summit and acting like they don't exist is pretty suspect.
    - Rygian 5y ago
      I don't think Tesla needs any motivation to transition to EVs.
      - mensetmanusman 5y ago
        Ohh it was a motivational speech?? Now I’m glad Tesla didn’t go.
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    They only invited union companies. It’s all politics.
    - breakyerself 5y ago
      Unions are good. Tesla should unionize.
      - simondotau 5y ago
        If the employees want a union, they will. If they don't, they won't.
        breakyerself 5y ago
        I would love if it was that simple.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  Inviting Musk wouldn't be worth it politically. Musk runs around on Twitter calling people pedophiles. Musk flouted California's coronavirus regulations as a media stunt. Musk says Americans are complacent and entitled whereas he praises the Chinese as smart and hardworking. Musk says China rocks: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-rocks-us-full-of-entitlement.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-ro... So why would Biden invite him when Musk brings so much baggage?
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    Unless the government is run by a bunch of children, Tesla is a public company not owned by Elon. It has tremendous pull and not inviting them is a political tantrum by the administration than anything else. Musk called someone a pedo 4 years ago. Can we please stop? Let's see: Does the world benefit from a CEO that has built the biggest clean-energy revolution that the world has ever seen but has spoken some shit while they were drunk? The answer is unequivocally, YES.
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      Reputations stick, which why it's not worth it to Biden politically. Musk has gone out of his way to earn a reputation for being a clown and he will be remembered as a clown. That's a cost of using Twitter to express yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzGdoPu9vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzGdoPu9vs
      - simondotau 5y ago
        Elon is a weird guy. Big whoop. What's wrong with being a clown? My guess is that his critics are just angry that Elon doesn't feel as constrained by societal norms as they do. And that video is hilarious in its journalistic superficiality. When Elon uses the number 420, it's a joke. It doesn't matter if 99.999% of people who read it see no humour in it, it's still clearly identifiable as Elon humour. The fact that this wasn't pointed out is just sad. Even if it wasn't a joke, tweets like that have no effect on long term stock price. (Though it could be argued that the pathetic howling of indignation around them has a very slight medium-term effect.) The only people who "lose out" as a result of tweets like that are day traders and market speculators—people who make their money off the value created by others, adding literally zero value to the economy.
t0mas88 5y ago
If you read the article you'll see that Musk made a baseless comment about a meeting he had no place at because it was about changing petrol car manufacturers to at least 50% EV sales. Nothing to do with political risk, just Musk being Musk and tweeting/commenting before thinking like he always does.
- Factorium 5y ago
  https://www.eenews.net/articles/automakers-blast-ev-tax-credit-over-union-provision/ https://www.eenews.net/articles/automakers-blast-ev-tax-cred... "the measure also offers union-made EVs assembled in the United States an additional $4,500 tax incentive."

systemvoltage 5y ago

> “Biden held this EV summit. Didn’t invite Tesla. Invited GM, Ford, Chrysler, and UAW. EV summit at the White House, didn’t mention Tesla once and praised GM and Ford for leading the EV revolution. Doesn’t it sound a little bias? It’s not the friendliest of administrations. Seems to be controlled by the unions.” Wow.

phatfish 5y ago
You need an ego the size of the sun to expect everything to revolve around you, so it makes sense at least.
- simondotau 5y ago
  Imagine if someone was doing an analysis of chip fabrication in the USA and never once mentioned Intel, pretending they didn’t exist.
- adoxyz 5y ago
  There's plenty of things to shit on Tesla and Elon with, but I think this is the wrong take in this particular instance. Not inviting Tesla to the EV summit and acting like they don't exist is pretty suspect.
  - Rygian 5y ago
    I don't think Tesla needs any motivation to transition to EVs.
    - mensetmanusman 5y ago
      Ohh it was a motivational speech?? Now I’m glad Tesla didn’t go.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  They only invited union companies. It’s all politics.
  - breakyerself 5y ago
    Unions are good. Tesla should unionize.
    - simondotau 5y ago
      If the employees want a union, they will. If they don't, they won't.
      - breakyerself 5y ago
        I would love if it was that simple.
clouddrover 5y ago
Inviting Musk wouldn't be worth it politically. Musk runs around on Twitter calling people pedophiles. Musk flouted California's coronavirus regulations as a media stunt. Musk says Americans are complacent and entitled whereas he praises the Chinese as smart and hardworking. Musk says China rocks: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-rocks-us-full-of-entitlement.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/31/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-china-ro... So why would Biden invite him when Musk brings so much baggage?
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  Unless the government is run by a bunch of children, Tesla is a public company not owned by Elon. It has tremendous pull and not inviting them is a political tantrum by the administration than anything else. Musk called someone a pedo 4 years ago. Can we please stop? Let's see: Does the world benefit from a CEO that has built the biggest clean-energy revolution that the world has ever seen but has spoken some shit while they were drunk? The answer is unequivocally, YES.
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    Reputations stick, which why it's not worth it to Biden politically. Musk has gone out of his way to earn a reputation for being a clown and he will be remembered as a clown. That's a cost of using Twitter to express yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzGdoPu9vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzGdoPu9vs
    - simondotau 5y ago
      Elon is a weird guy. Big whoop. What's wrong with being a clown? My guess is that his critics are just angry that Elon doesn't feel as constrained by societal norms as they do. And that video is hilarious in its journalistic superficiality. When Elon uses the number 420, it's a joke. It doesn't matter if 99.999% of people who read it see no humour in it, it's still clearly identifiable as Elon humour. The fact that this wasn't pointed out is just sad. Even if it wasn't a joke, tweets like that have no effect on long term stock price. (Though it could be argued that the pathetic howling of indignation around them has a very slight medium-term effect.) The only people who "lose out" as a result of tweets like that are day traders and market speculators—people who make their money off the value created by others, adding literally zero value to the economy.

t0mas88 5y ago

If you read the article you'll see that Musk made a baseless comment about a meeting he had no place at because it was about changing petrol car manufacturers to at least 50% EV sales. Nothing to do with political risk, just Musk being Musk and tweeting/commenting before thinking like he always does.

Factorium 5y ago
https://www.eenews.net/articles/automakers-blast-ev-tax-credit-over-union-provision/ https://www.eenews.net/articles/automakers-blast-ev-tax-cred... "the measure also offers union-made EVs assembled in the United States an additional $4,500 tax incentive."