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Ports are national infrastructure. The current mess is one of the few times I'd actually be in favor of nationalizing them until the current crisis blows over.

Ports are national infrastructure. The current mess is one of the few times I'd actually be in favor of nationalizing them until the current crisis blows over. Hell, I'd be ok with us building 21st century 'mulberry harbors' if it got things under control. The president should go off on them like Reagan did with the air traffic controllers.

horns4lyfe 5y ago
Biden has been in the pockets of big unions from the beginning. Not a chance of any of that happening.
Factorium 5y ago
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- cr__ 5y ago
  Which elections weren’t “real”?
myfavoritedog 5y ago
The withdrawal from Afghanistan should be instructive of why we should not be eager to see a big power-grab from the current administration. The main three causes of this shipping kerfuffle are: 1. Environmental regulations on trucking. 2. Anti-independent operator laws in CA. 3. Government subservience to the longshoremen union. 4. Overly-aggressive stay-at-home policies and subsidies from COVID. The current administration would go in the wrong direction on every one of those causes.
- praestigiare 5y ago
  Yes, the three big problems: environmental regulations, worker rights, and public health. Without those, industry would be booming.
julienb_sea 5y ago
Ports are already operated by local government. This is standard practice in basically all countries. The most efficient port in the world, Yokohama, is operated by the local harbor district, in exactly the same manner as Long Beach operated by the local city council. I don't think nationalization is going to solve the problem here.
- iammisc 5y ago
  The port of long beach is actually the port of Los Angeles. It's in la city. There's a weird finger that reaches out from downtown.
delfinom 5y ago
Ports are complex beasts. The current issues are being tied back to truckers which the entire country is lacking due to miserable lifestyle, and unstable pay. Long haul truckers have it even worse than short haul. Good luck fixing that unless we are going to nationalize and offer $100k+ wages for a miserable job. Let's also not ignore this shitshow: https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forced-into-debt-worked-past-exhaustion-left-with-nothing/ https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forc...

horns4lyfe 5y ago

Biden has been in the pockets of big unions from the beginning. Not a chance of any of that happening.

Factorium 5y ago

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cr__ 5y ago
Which elections weren’t “real”?

myfavoritedog 5y ago

The withdrawal from Afghanistan should be instructive of why we should not be eager to see a big power-grab from the current administration. The main three causes of this shipping kerfuffle are: 1. Environmental regulations on trucking. 2. Anti-independent operator laws in CA. 3. Government subservience to the longshoremen union. 4. Overly-aggressive stay-at-home policies and subsidies from COVID. The current administration would go in the wrong direction on every one of those causes.

praestigiare 5y ago
Yes, the three big problems: environmental regulations, worker rights, and public health. Without those, industry would be booming.

julienb_sea 5y ago

Ports are already operated by local government. This is standard practice in basically all countries. The most efficient port in the world, Yokohama, is operated by the local harbor district, in exactly the same manner as Long Beach operated by the local city council. I don't think nationalization is going to solve the problem here.

iammisc 5y ago
The port of long beach is actually the port of Los Angeles. It's in la city. There's a weird finger that reaches out from downtown.

delfinom 5y ago

Ports are complex beasts. The current issues are being tied back to truckers which the entire country is lacking due to miserable lifestyle, and unstable pay. Long haul truckers have it even worse than short haul. Good luck fixing that unless we are going to nationalize and offer $100k+ wages for a miserable job. Let's also not ignore this shitshow: https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forced-into-debt-worked-past-exhaustion-left-with-nothing/ https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forc...