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> But it is meaningless since they did not write about it nor they stablished commerce. The first African to climb Mt. Everest, you say? Well he didn’t help b

> But it is meaningless since they did not write about it nor they stablished commerce. The first African to climb Mt. Everest, you say? Well he didn’t help build a network of base camps so I’m just going to say that it’s meaningless.

avgcorrection 5y ago
Come to think of it: none of Buddha’s followers even wrote about him or Buddhism itself until several centuries after his death. Meaningless.
- chestertn 5y ago
  Yes, but they continued the Buddhism tradition (orally). The Vikings did not continue commercing and tell other people... hey! there are humans in this place! its a new continent!
  - MichaelMcG 5y ago
    "Meh--same climate, different continent. We'll stick to raiding the shorter commute South, they have stuff worth taking."
chestertn 5y ago
Yes. Meaningless. 1492? Very meaningful. One of the most important feats if not the most important of what we used to call the Age of Exploration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Discovery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Discovery This led to global trade that changed the face of the earth. It opened philosophical debates about human rights, the legality of wars, etc., which are still important today. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/school-salamanca/#IusGentIusAdBellEnslIndiAfriOthe https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/school-salamanca/#IusGent... These debates led to the prohibition of American Indian slavery in... 1542! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws The first recorded christian marriage in current United States was an interracial union in 1565! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_colonial_Spanish_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_colonial_Spanish_Am... I could go on an on.
- chestertn 5y ago
  A nuance here. Why is this important? Slavery was very common back then and the New Laws were revolutionary. The Ottomans were famous for their slave trade and did capture tons of Europeans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire Not only that, Aztecs and other indigenous peoples from the americas had Slavery as an institution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_slavery Indigenous slavery ended with the New Laws
- anthk 5y ago
  Yeah, we had the School of Salamanca, and the state-of-the-art Liberal Constitution from Cadiz, but somehow, we the Spaniards fuck things over spectacularly, as if we had a curse.

avgcorrection 5y ago

Come to think of it: none of Buddha’s followers even wrote about him or Buddhism itself until several centuries after his death. Meaningless.

chestertn 5y ago
Yes, but they continued the Buddhism tradition (orally). The Vikings did not continue commercing and tell other people... hey! there are humans in this place! its a new continent!
- MichaelMcG 5y ago
  "Meh--same climate, different continent. We'll stick to raiding the shorter commute South, they have stuff worth taking."

chestertn 5y ago

Yes. Meaningless. 1492? Very meaningful. One of the most important feats if not the most important of what we used to call the Age of Exploration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Discovery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Discovery This led to global trade that changed the face of the earth. It opened philosophical debates about human rights, the legality of wars, etc., which are still important today. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/school-salamanca/#IusGentIusAdBellEnslIndiAfriOthe https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/school-salamanca/#IusGent... These debates led to the prohibition of American Indian slavery in... 1542! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws The first recorded christian marriage in current United States was an interracial union in 1565! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_colonial_Spanish_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_colonial_Spanish_Am... I could go on an on.

chestertn 5y ago
A nuance here. Why is this important? Slavery was very common back then and the New Laws were revolutionary. The Ottomans were famous for their slave trade and did capture tons of Europeans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire Not only that, Aztecs and other indigenous peoples from the americas had Slavery as an institution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_slavery Indigenous slavery ended with the New Laws
anthk 5y ago
Yeah, we had the School of Salamanca, and the state-of-the-art Liberal Constitution from Cadiz, but somehow, we the Spaniards fuck things over spectacularly, as if we had a curse.