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Pretty impressive, all things considered. Looks like it's roughly on par with an AMD 5800X, which is a Desktop CPU with 8C/16T and a 105W TDP.

Thaxll 5y ago
5800x seems 20% faster for single core: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 so def not on part.
- tbob22 5y ago
  That's certainly overclocked or very high PBO offsets, at stock the 5800x gets around 1700-1800 ST.
- YetAnotherNick 5y ago
  This is the official score: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-5800x https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-5800x
  - tbob22 5y ago
    Yeah, that looks correct. With faster ram and PBO it should hit closer to 1800. Here is my 5600x with PBO enabled and 3800MT/s CL16 DDR4 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10516280 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10516280 5800x would have a max clock of 4950mhz with PBO
- hajile 5y ago
  But if you run TWO single-threaded workloads at once, the clocks dial WAY back. Meanwhile, the M1 can keep all cores at 3.2GHz pretty much indefinitely.
mhh__ 5y ago
Impressive but unbelievably expensive considering what will actually be run on it. I kind of want one, but the 5800x for example is about 10x less expensive than a specced out MacBook Pro
- megablast 5y ago
  Are you comparing the price of a chip to a laptop??
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    Yes. If I bought one of these it would never actually move so I don't actually mind the comparison all that much for my personal use case, obviously it isn't apples to oranges but my point is that this performance is not free.
    - hwita 5y ago
      Then perhaps you may want to wait for Apple to release a desktop-class processor to make the comparison, perhaps early next year?
      - lostmsu 5y ago
        Perhaps. AMD should also release 5nm processors by then too.
      - yazaddaruvala 5y ago
        Its not clear to me that Apple will make a desktop-class processor. The unit economics likely don't make sense for them. All of Apple's innovation seems to be towards better and cheaper AR/VR hardware. Desktop-class processors would be a distraction for them. And with all of the top cloud players building custom silicon these days, there is little room for Apple to sell CPUs to the server market even if they were inclined (which they are not). The only strategic Apple vertical that might align with desktop-class CPUs is the Apple Car initiative and specifically self-driving. Dedicated audio/image/video processing and inference focused hardware could better empower creatives for things like VFX or post-processing or media in general. However, its not clear to me that is enough of a market for Apple's unit economics compared with more iDevice / MacBook sales.
        Closi 5y ago
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Thaxll 5y ago

5800x seems 20% faster for single core: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 so def not on part.

tbob22 5y ago
That's certainly overclocked or very high PBO offsets, at stock the 5800x gets around 1700-1800 ST.
YetAnotherNick 5y ago
This is the official score: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-5800x https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-5800x
- tbob22 5y ago
  Yeah, that looks correct. With faster ram and PBO it should hit closer to 1800. Here is my 5600x with PBO enabled and 3800MT/s CL16 DDR4 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10516280 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10516280 5800x would have a max clock of 4950mhz with PBO
hajile 5y ago
But if you run TWO single-threaded workloads at once, the clocks dial WAY back. Meanwhile, the M1 can keep all cores at 3.2GHz pretty much indefinitely.

mhh__ 5y ago

Impressive but unbelievably expensive considering what will actually be run on it. I kind of want one, but the 5800x for example is about 10x less expensive than a specced out MacBook Pro

megablast 5y ago
Are you comparing the price of a chip to a laptop??
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Yes. If I bought one of these it would never actually move so I don't actually mind the comparison all that much for my personal use case, obviously it isn't apples to oranges but my point is that this performance is not free.
  - hwita 5y ago
    Then perhaps you may want to wait for Apple to release a desktop-class processor to make the comparison, perhaps early next year?
    - lostmsu 5y ago
      Perhaps. AMD should also release 5nm processors by then too.
    - yazaddaruvala 5y ago
      Its not clear to me that Apple will make a desktop-class processor. The unit economics likely don't make sense for them. All of Apple's innovation seems to be towards better and cheaper AR/VR hardware. Desktop-class processors would be a distraction for them. And with all of the top cloud players building custom silicon these days, there is little room for Apple to sell CPUs to the server market even if they were inclined (which they are not). The only strategic Apple vertical that might align with desktop-class CPUs is the Apple Car initiative and specifically self-driving. Dedicated audio/image/video processing and inference focused hardware could better empower creatives for things like VFX or post-processing or media in general. However, its not clear to me that is enough of a market for Apple's unit economics compared with more iDevice / MacBook sales.
      - Closi 5y ago

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