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Anyone know the score for Intel 12th gen Alder Lake?

mhh__ 5y ago
I can't check for you due to hug but the 12900K was clocking in at about 1900 ST IIRC Edit: Leaving this up so I can be corrected, don't think I have the right figure.
- gigatexal 5y ago
  If true I’d be interested to see what that is in points per watt.
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    The points per watt is probably going to be crap but equally I don't care all that much. One thing as well is that there are always headlines complaining about power usage, but the figures are nearly always from extreme stress tests which basically fully saturate the execution units. Geekbench is slightly different to those stresses so not sure.
    - gigatexal 5y ago
      Sure but I’m only asking for Points per watt to use as a baseline for testing Apple’s claims.
      - mhh__ 5y ago
        Peak wattage is apparently 330W on a super heavy test, not really sure how to extrapolate that to geekbench.
        jeffbee 5y ago
        Wow, there's a power virus for Alder Lake client that can make it draw 330W? Reference?
        gigatexal 5y ago
        Bitcoin? ;)
marricks 5y ago
1834 ST / 17370 MT [1] But that's also for something which has a TDP of 125W [2], unsure if that's the right number for a mobile chip? Also no clue what M1 Max's TDP is either. [1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 [2] https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/ https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/
- ribit 5y ago
  M1 Max TDP will be around 30-40 watt for the CPU cluster and 50-60 watt for the GPU cluster. Note that unlike x86 CPUs (which can draw far more than their TDP for brief periods of time), this is maximal power usage of the chip. M1 needs about 5W to reach those signs-core scores, Tiger Lake needs 20W
- runeks 5y ago
  The Intel CPU is pretty underwhelming. It has twice the number of high performance cores (16 vs 8) but is only 37% faster for multi-core tasks.
  - eMSF 5y ago
    That Intel CPU (12900K) has 8 performance cores, i.e. as many as M1 Max.
    - runeks 5y ago
      Not as far as I can see. > The Intel Core i9-12900K operates with 16 cores and 24 CPU threads. It run at 5.30 GHz base 5.00 GHz all cores while the TDP is set at 125 W. https://cpu-comparison.com/intel-core-i9-12900k/ https://cpu-comparison.com/intel-core-i9-12900k/
      - eMSF 5y ago
        12900K has 8 high performance cores (with 2 hardware threads each, look up hyperthreading), and 8 efficiency cores for a total sum of 24 hardware threads. Previous Intel generations have only had so called high performance cores (except, maybe, for the Atom line of CPUs), even though not all of them have had hyperthreading enabled.

I can't check for you due to hug but the 12900K was clocking in at about 1900 ST IIRC Edit: Leaving this up so I can be corrected, don't think I have the right figure.

gigatexal 5y ago
If true I’d be interested to see what that is in points per watt.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  The points per watt is probably going to be crap but equally I don't care all that much. One thing as well is that there are always headlines complaining about power usage, but the figures are nearly always from extreme stress tests which basically fully saturate the execution units. Geekbench is slightly different to those stresses so not sure.
  - gigatexal 5y ago
    Sure but I’m only asking for Points per watt to use as a baseline for testing Apple’s claims.
    - mhh__ 5y ago
      Peak wattage is apparently 330W on a super heavy test, not really sure how to extrapolate that to geekbench.
      - jeffbee 5y ago
        Wow, there's a power virus for Alder Lake client that can make it draw 330W? Reference?
        gigatexal 5y ago
        Bitcoin? ;)

marricks 5y ago

1834 ST / 17370 MT [1] But that's also for something which has a TDP of 125W [2], unsure if that's the right number for a mobile chip? Also no clue what M1 Max's TDP is either. [1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 [2] https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/ https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/

ribit 5y ago
M1 Max TDP will be around 30-40 watt for the CPU cluster and 50-60 watt for the GPU cluster. Note that unlike x86 CPUs (which can draw far more than their TDP for brief periods of time), this is maximal power usage of the chip. M1 needs about 5W to reach those signs-core scores, Tiger Lake needs 20W
runeks 5y ago
The Intel CPU is pretty underwhelming. It has twice the number of high performance cores (16 vs 8) but is only 37% faster for multi-core tasks.
- eMSF 5y ago
  That Intel CPU (12900K) has 8 performance cores, i.e. as many as M1 Max.
  - runeks 5y ago
    Not as far as I can see. > The Intel Core i9-12900K operates with 16 cores and 24 CPU threads. It run at 5.30 GHz base 5.00 GHz all cores while the TDP is set at 125 W. https://cpu-comparison.com/intel-core-i9-12900k/ https://cpu-comparison.com/intel-core-i9-12900k/
    - eMSF 5y ago
      12900K has 8 high performance cores (with 2 hardware threads each, look up hyperthreading), and 8 efficiency cores for a total sum of 24 hardware threads. Previous Intel generations have only had so called high performance cores (except, maybe, for the Atom line of CPUs), even though not all of them have had hyperthreading enabled.