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Ahh I just discovered this website, anyway I am the owner of the website and yes its only up to M so far but I have a list of almost all the games to add the pl

Ahh I just discovered this website, anyway I am the owner of the website and yes its only up to M so far but I have a list of almost all the games to add the place to see all the systems so far is https://voxodyssey.com/game-consoles https://voxodyssey.com/game-consoles Its a work in progress I do this alone one person and have got the website to 688 next update will be around 710 or so games this is not spam either I really appriciate feedback and looking to get more exposure to the website but trying not to over push it

jamesandthewolf 5y ago
Just discovered this Forum so this website ycombinator.com
yosefjaved1 5y ago
Welcome! I don't think you will find a more appreciative and constructively critical crowd of your work from a technical and usage perspective. Please keep coming back with more of your work as we love to see it!
- jamesandthewolf 5y ago
  Haha what the hell wake up this morning get coffee thinking to myself let's check if this has any impact on my google analytics, login to account rub my eyes, over 5000 increase in traffic, my results are so screwed now huge spikes, great problem to have.
mrandish 5y ago
I assume you are already aware of the active community of video game historians and preservationists involved with the retro arcade and console emulation movements (ie MAME/MESS, etc). If not, here's a link to get you started: https://www.progettosnaps.net/dats/ https://www.progettosnaps.net/dats/
- jamesandthewolf 5y ago
  What is this ive not seen this before emulators can get you in a bit of issues if you give over the roms though no?
  - acomjean 5y ago
    Yes. But sometimes they sell the roms. If they’re not… For example Atari does for a raspberry pi sd card as a bootable Atari emulator. It’s using the emulators produced by the retro game community. https://www.microcenter.com/product/618709/atari-games-sd-card https://www.microcenter.com/product/618709/atari-games-sd-ca...
  - mrandish 5y ago
    The retro preservation community is focused on documenting and archiving these historically significant creative and artistic interactive digital works for the long-term future. The preservation community is careful to steer clear of shorter-term legal and commercial issues. Copyright typically expires in less than a hundred years which is brief on art history timescales. Commercial interests in monetizing intellectual property are even more ephemeral. Even for immediate purposes, there are broad exemptions to copyright for non-commercial fair use including educational, scholarly, editorial and creative purposes throughout most of the world. This is well-trodden territory. Over the years the issues have been discussed at length in the preservation community. By searching terms such as "MAME", "MESS", "emulation", "preservation" and "fair use" you can find official position statements as well as detailed legal analysis and individual commentary (example: https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/12/28/archive-org-coverage-on-various-sites/ https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/12/28/archive-org-covera...). Excerpt from the linked 2013 post by a long-time MameDev: > I feel it important to once again point out that MAME (and MESS) are NOT projects about playing free games and that we do not condone or facilitate large scale piracy. > What we provide is factual references, and emulation of hardware components. Our aim is to make these as good as possible, and be able to emulate ANY possible piece of software that might run on them; emulating and documenting more software allows us to improve our hardware emulations, improving our hardware emulations allows more software to run, naturally we reference what we have used to make this progress, but at no point do we actually provide it. > In terms of project goal you’ve only got to look at the MESS part of the codebase (that we now ship with the MAME source) to see there are emulations of random devices like EEPROM programmers, Car Computers, Digial Clocks and Homebrew computers etc. This hopefully shows that the project is about something much more important and with a much wider scope than what some people assume (that they’re simply projects about playing games for free). Even in MAME we emulate things like Firmware update programs, and have skeleton drivers for Coin-operated Jukeboxes (and in the most recent update, an electronic Darts board) none of which would be included if it was merely a project about playing games. FWIW this has always been one of my arguments for fully combining the project binaries by default, it makes this position a LOT clearer because most of the cases that demonstrate this well do come from MESS. > I should also stress that popular systems in MESS are also often handled differently to other emulators, there are reasons we document the proper content of cartridges, and require real rom dumps for things like NES where possible (rather than simply using .nes files which lose this information) Design choices like this might make things more inconvenient for users (and has zero benefits in terms of playability) but does result in our history being better documented which is more important when it comes to the goals of the project and again emphasizes that this isn’t simply a project about ‘free games’

jamesandthewolf 5y ago

Just discovered this Forum so this website ycombinator.com

yosefjaved1 5y ago

Welcome! I don't think you will find a more appreciative and constructively critical crowd of your work from a technical and usage perspective. Please keep coming back with more of your work as we love to see it!

jamesandthewolf 5y ago
Haha what the hell wake up this morning get coffee thinking to myself let's check if this has any impact on my google analytics, login to account rub my eyes, over 5000 increase in traffic, my results are so screwed now huge spikes, great problem to have.

mrandish 5y ago

I assume you are already aware of the active community of video game historians and preservationists involved with the retro arcade and console emulation movements (ie MAME/MESS, etc). If not, here's a link to get you started: https://www.progettosnaps.net/dats/ https://www.progettosnaps.net/dats/

jamesandthewolf 5y ago
What is this ive not seen this before emulators can get you in a bit of issues if you give over the roms though no?
- acomjean 5y ago
  Yes. But sometimes they sell the roms. If they’re not… For example Atari does for a raspberry pi sd card as a bootable Atari emulator. It’s using the emulators produced by the retro game community. https://www.microcenter.com/product/618709/atari-games-sd-card https://www.microcenter.com/product/618709/atari-games-sd-ca...
- mrandish 5y ago
  The retro preservation community is focused on documenting and archiving these historically significant creative and artistic interactive digital works for the long-term future. The preservation community is careful to steer clear of shorter-term legal and commercial issues. Copyright typically expires in less than a hundred years which is brief on art history timescales. Commercial interests in monetizing intellectual property are even more ephemeral. Even for immediate purposes, there are broad exemptions to copyright for non-commercial fair use including educational, scholarly, editorial and creative purposes throughout most of the world. This is well-trodden territory. Over the years the issues have been discussed at length in the preservation community. By searching terms such as "MAME", "MESS", "emulation", "preservation" and "fair use" you can find official position statements as well as detailed legal analysis and individual commentary (example: https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/12/28/archive-org-coverage-on-various-sites/ https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/12/28/archive-org-covera...). Excerpt from the linked 2013 post by a long-time MameDev: > I feel it important to once again point out that MAME (and MESS) are NOT projects about playing free games and that we do not condone or facilitate large scale piracy. > What we provide is factual references, and emulation of hardware components. Our aim is to make these as good as possible, and be able to emulate ANY possible piece of software that might run on them; emulating and documenting more software allows us to improve our hardware emulations, improving our hardware emulations allows more software to run, naturally we reference what we have used to make this progress, but at no point do we actually provide it. > In terms of project goal you’ve only got to look at the MESS part of the codebase (that we now ship with the MAME source) to see there are emulations of random devices like EEPROM programmers, Car Computers, Digial Clocks and Homebrew computers etc. This hopefully shows that the project is about something much more important and with a much wider scope than what some people assume (that they’re simply projects about playing games for free). Even in MAME we emulate things like Firmware update programs, and have skeleton drivers for Coin-operated Jukeboxes (and in the most recent update, an electronic Darts board) none of which would be included if it was merely a project about playing games. FWIW this has always been one of my arguments for fully combining the project binaries by default, it makes this position a LOT clearer because most of the cases that demonstrate this well do come from MESS. > I should also stress that popular systems in MESS are also often handled differently to other emulators, there are reasons we document the proper content of cartridges, and require real rom dumps for things like NES where possible (rather than simply using .nes files which lose this information) Design choices like this might make things more inconvenient for users (and has zero benefits in terms of playability) but does result in our history being better documented which is more important when it comes to the goals of the project and again emphasizes that this isn’t simply a project about ‘free games’