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> it's pretty comical to think that conservationists could ever come up with enough money to seriously outbid oil and gas companies in lucrative areas It would

by lisper 5y ago

> it's pretty comical to think that conservationists could ever come up with enough money to seriously outbid oil and gas companies in lucrative areas It would be less comical if there were a global carbon tax that reflected the actual costs of the externalities of fossil fuels. And yes, I know that's not likely either, but a boy can dream.

1cvmask 5y ago
They would then demand a tax on the sun as well. There is an old satirical essay by the French economist Frédéric Bastiat on how the candlemakers demanded protection from the Sun: Economic Sophisms and the candlemakers' petition Contained within Economic Sophisms is the satirical parable known as the candlemakers' petition in which candlemakers and tallow producers lobby the Chamber of Deputies of the French July Monarchy (1830–1848) to block out the Sun to prevent its unfair competition with their products.[9] Also included in the Sophisms is a facetious petition to the king asking for a law forbidding the usage of everyone's right hand, based on a presumption by some of his contemporaries that more difficulty means more work and more work means more wealth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat
- handrous 5y ago
  How does a call to add the costs of negative externalities to product prices have anything to do with what you posted?
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    Or the sun? How does generating energy from sun add carbon to the atmosphere, besides looking at like supply chain production of panels.
ootsootsoots 5y ago
The free market of voters is not clamoring for such things. Frankly I don’t see a solution aside from labor constraining supply. Teacher strikes worked. Internet blackouts stopped SOPA. Country by of and for the people who keep putting up with bullshit. Be men and tell your bosses you’re keeping your laptop shut until things change. A lot less real risk in such a revolution. Or do as comfortable, affluent folks do and wait until it actually effects you. New technology, same old biology.

by lisper 5y ago

1cvmask 5y ago

They would then demand a tax on the sun as well. There is an old satirical essay by the French economist Frédéric Bastiat on how the candlemakers demanded protection from the Sun: Economic Sophisms and the candlemakers' petition Contained within Economic Sophisms is the satirical parable known as the candlemakers' petition in which candlemakers and tallow producers lobby the Chamber of Deputies of the French July Monarchy (1830–1848) to block out the Sun to prevent its unfair competition with their products.[9] Also included in the Sophisms is a facetious petition to the king asking for a law forbidding the usage of everyone's right hand, based on a presumption by some of his contemporaries that more difficulty means more work and more work means more wealth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Bastiat

handrous 5y ago
How does a call to add the costs of negative externalities to product prices have anything to do with what you posted?
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  Or the sun? How does generating energy from sun add carbon to the atmosphere, besides looking at like supply chain production of panels.

ootsootsoots 5y ago

The free market of voters is not clamoring for such things. Frankly I don’t see a solution aside from labor constraining supply. Teacher strikes worked. Internet blackouts stopped SOPA. Country by of and for the people who keep putting up with bullshit. Be men and tell your bosses you’re keeping your laptop shut until things change. A lot less real risk in such a revolution. Or do as comfortable, affluent folks do and wait until it actually effects you. New technology, same old biology.