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The last 50 years of politics across US and Europe have proven over and over again that you ignore "silent majorities" at your peril. They have an annoying habi

by toyg 5y ago

The last 50 years of politics across US and Europe have proven over and over again that you ignore "silent majorities" at your peril. They have an annoying habit of making mincemeat of arguments for radical change when you least expect it. I'm sure there are parallel realities where 60s/70s counterculture stops Reagan and Thatcher from winning (twice), but this isn't one of them. Lay out your case for change, by all means; but you should always assume that you start from a position of minority until proven otherwise.

supernovae 5y ago
If you look at the data, it certainly isn't the silent majority, it's the vocal minority. Look at the last US election, they tried to destroy democracy and claim fraudulent elections to uphold these absurd beliefs. It's so bad, that many states are making it harder for the people to vote just to perpetuate this nonsense.
- toyg 5y ago
  You are equating "silent majority" and "hardcore right wing". That's not how it works in practice - this is something that both right and left can and do get wrong.
  - supernovae 5y ago
    You're assuming left vs right, The only side that feels there is some universality here is the right. The left is HIGHLY fragmented - always has been, always will be. That gives people on the right this messed up "silent majority" notion that just isn't true.
    - N0tAThr0wAway 5y ago
      The right has definitely fragmented in the past five years (older conservatives, Trumpers, the alt-right, etc.). You're again getting this wrong and can only think in a "left vs. right" framework (typical of leftists and alt-righters). The "silent majority" exists in this case especially around wedge issues like trans sports inclusion [0]. [0] https://19thnews.org/2021/05/gallup-americans-oppose-transgender-sports-participation/ https://19thnews.org/2021/05/gallup-americans-oppose-transge...

by toyg 5y ago

supernovae 5y ago

If you look at the data, it certainly isn't the silent majority, it's the vocal minority. Look at the last US election, they tried to destroy democracy and claim fraudulent elections to uphold these absurd beliefs. It's so bad, that many states are making it harder for the people to vote just to perpetuate this nonsense.

toyg 5y ago
You are equating "silent majority" and "hardcore right wing". That's not how it works in practice - this is something that both right and left can and do get wrong.
- supernovae 5y ago
  You're assuming left vs right, The only side that feels there is some universality here is the right. The left is HIGHLY fragmented - always has been, always will be. That gives people on the right this messed up "silent majority" notion that just isn't true.
  - N0tAThr0wAway 5y ago
    The right has definitely fragmented in the past five years (older conservatives, Trumpers, the alt-right, etc.). You're again getting this wrong and can only think in a "left vs. right" framework (typical of leftists and alt-righters). The "silent majority" exists in this case especially around wedge issues like trans sports inclusion [0]. [0] https://19thnews.org/2021/05/gallup-americans-oppose-transgender-sports-participation/ https://19thnews.org/2021/05/gallup-americans-oppose-transge...