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Things generally upsetting people in general is one thing, but details matter. The reporting describes something more like a question of priorities and ongoing

Things generally upsetting people in general is one thing, but details matter. The reporting describes something more like a question of priorities and ongoing lack of appropriate attention to community dynamics. Worse, it sounds like a situation that could have been avoided. > Organizers did not specify their demands ahead of the rally, although Preston said the event would call for content that prioritizes "the safety and dignity of all marginalized communities." > Transgender Netflix employee Terra Field has called on the streamer to add a content warning to "The Closer," and to promote more "queer and trans comedians and talent." There is a lot of hurt and painful experience inside these messages to Netflix. The demands don't exactly seem extraordinary in that context either.

cassac 5y ago
Should they take all jokes that hurt Christian feelings offline? Or how about anything that is critical of the CCP? Where does it end?
- robbintt 5y ago
  > add a content warning Why did you jump to taking things offline?
  - cassac 5y ago
    I don’t really think in the end they would accept a scenario where Chapelle would be free to make any content he wants as long as it has a content warning. That was an “at least you should…” not the actual demand. Though we won’t know until they actually present their demands.
- falcolas 5y ago
  Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.
  - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
    Thats what you claim. If you talk to many Christians, they 100% believe they are being oppressed and that secularists and Atheists are coming to destroy their faith. Who are you to deny their grievances. As for the CCP, there are plenty that claim that anti-CCP is anti-Chinese racism and has no place on the stage
    - falcolas 5y ago
      > Who are you to deny their grievances. Someone who looks at them and sees that they are the majority religion in the Western world, and have politicians everywhere pushing their talking points and morals on everybody else.
      - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
        Once again, that is what you claim, in the same way that right-wingers point to the fact that we have had a black-president so racism isn't a problem anymore. Why do your claims have more truthiness than theirs?
        falcolas 5y ago
        Because my claims are falsifiable? Christianity accounts for 2.3 Billion people in the world, the next highest is Islam at 1.9 Billion. Unaffiliated (of which Athiests are only a portion) is only 1.2 Billion worldwide. Thus, Christianity is, by definition, a majority. In one example to prove my second point, politicians in Texas are pushing Christian morality around abortion into laws. This is the opposite of being oppressed.
        dragonwriter 5y ago
        > Thus, Christianity is, by definition, a majority. No, its a plurality, which is a minority that is bigger than any other minority when there is bo majority. OTOH, the popular use of “minority” that is being referenced doesn't mean mathematical minority, it means “historically systematically oppressed group”; it evolved from the language around race in the US, where whites were the majority and minorities (especially blacks) were oppressed on the basis of race, but the key reference is the oppression not the numerical relationship.
JohnWhigham 5y ago
I find it funny that there's been virtually no discussion about his trans comedian friend (forget their name) and how the bullying they received because she stuck up for Chappelle drove her to suicide. You'd think the trans community should stop and reflect on why this happened. But nope, apparently their death is justified because Chappelle bad!
- toyg 5y ago
  I have friends involved in the LGBT community since forever, and even them openly admit that the trans community is a cesspool. One thing that has become abundantly clear through history is that even marginalized groups, once empowered, have the potential (and often a vengeful inclination) to make others suffer.
  - slowmovintarget 5y ago
    Yes. Empowerment is mistaken to mean power and authority over others instead of power and control over one's own destiny. When so distorted, such a "community" becomes a dominance hierarchy where the most aggrieved wins. History shows it is never healthy, it merely perfects bullying and viciousness.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
    > I have friends involved in the LGBT community since forever, and even them openly admit that the trans community is a cesspool. Is there even a "trans community"? As far as I can tell, they try to stick together with the LGB crowd, rather successfully. The groups that are skeptical of T founded their own organizations, but I'd say they're very much a minority. Trans-progressivism is very much main stream, also as far as laws in different countries are concerned.
- me_me_me 5y ago
  > and how the bullying they received because she stuck up for Chappelle drove her to suicide Thats exactly what Chappelle did not say. He said that the bulling might not caused the suicide, but it sure did not help. I find it baffling that he developed a quite deep relationship with her - a transgender person - gave her a golden ticket (frontrunning for of the biggest comedians) as a token of appreciation and he gets called out as anti trans person. He deep cuts all of those fake virtue signalling people who do nothing and sacrifice noting for 'the cause', he walked away from the money of questionable hollywood people he took a stand. Maybe thats what irks those people? Mad world, mad world.

cassac 5y ago

Should they take all jokes that hurt Christian feelings offline? Or how about anything that is critical of the CCP? Where does it end?

robbintt 5y ago
> add a content warning Why did you jump to taking things offline?
- cassac 5y ago
  I don’t really think in the end they would accept a scenario where Chapelle would be free to make any content he wants as long as it has a content warning. That was an “at least you should…” not the actual demand. Though we won’t know until they actually present their demands.
falcolas 5y ago
Christians are not an oppressed minority, in any sense of either word. Nor is the CCP. Both of those parties represent real power, both politically and financially, in this world today.
- NikolaeVarius 5y ago
  Thats what you claim. If you talk to many Christians, they 100% believe they are being oppressed and that secularists and Atheists are coming to destroy their faith. Who are you to deny their grievances. As for the CCP, there are plenty that claim that anti-CCP is anti-Chinese racism and has no place on the stage
  - falcolas 5y ago
    > Who are you to deny their grievances. Someone who looks at them and sees that they are the majority religion in the Western world, and have politicians everywhere pushing their talking points and morals on everybody else.
    - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
      Once again, that is what you claim, in the same way that right-wingers point to the fact that we have had a black-president so racism isn't a problem anymore. Why do your claims have more truthiness than theirs?
      - falcolas 5y ago
        Because my claims are falsifiable? Christianity accounts for 2.3 Billion people in the world, the next highest is Islam at 1.9 Billion. Unaffiliated (of which Athiests are only a portion) is only 1.2 Billion worldwide. Thus, Christianity is, by definition, a majority. In one example to prove my second point, politicians in Texas are pushing Christian morality around abortion into laws. This is the opposite of being oppressed.
        dragonwriter 5y ago
        > Thus, Christianity is, by definition, a majority. No, its a plurality, which is a minority that is bigger than any other minority when there is bo majority. OTOH, the popular use of “minority” that is being referenced doesn't mean mathematical minority, it means “historically systematically oppressed group”; it evolved from the language around race in the US, where whites were the majority and minorities (especially blacks) were oppressed on the basis of race, but the key reference is the oppression not the numerical relationship.

JohnWhigham 5y ago

I find it funny that there's been virtually no discussion about his trans comedian friend (forget their name) and how the bullying they received because she stuck up for Chappelle drove her to suicide. You'd think the trans community should stop and reflect on why this happened. But nope, apparently their death is justified because Chappelle bad!

toyg 5y ago
I have friends involved in the LGBT community since forever, and even them openly admit that the trans community is a cesspool. One thing that has become abundantly clear through history is that even marginalized groups, once empowered, have the potential (and often a vengeful inclination) to make others suffer.
- slowmovintarget 5y ago
  Yes. Empowerment is mistaken to mean power and authority over others instead of power and control over one's own destiny. When so distorted, such a "community" becomes a dominance hierarchy where the most aggrieved wins. History shows it is never healthy, it merely perfects bullying and viciousness.
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  > I have friends involved in the LGBT community since forever, and even them openly admit that the trans community is a cesspool. Is there even a "trans community"? As far as I can tell, they try to stick together with the LGB crowd, rather successfully. The groups that are skeptical of T founded their own organizations, but I'd say they're very much a minority. Trans-progressivism is very much main stream, also as far as laws in different countries are concerned.
me_me_me 5y ago
> and how the bullying they received because she stuck up for Chappelle drove her to suicide Thats exactly what Chappelle did not say. He said that the bulling might not caused the suicide, but it sure did not help. I find it baffling that he developed a quite deep relationship with her - a transgender person - gave her a golden ticket (frontrunning for of the biggest comedians) as a token of appreciation and he gets called out as anti trans person. He deep cuts all of those fake virtue signalling people who do nothing and sacrifice noting for 'the cause', he walked away from the money of questionable hollywood people he took a stand. Maybe thats what irks those people? Mad world, mad world.