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I am supportive of visas for highly skilled workers and immigration in general. However I see many H1-Bs being hired that are frankly overqualified for the work

I am supportive of visas for highly skilled workers and immigration in general. However I see many H1-Bs being hired that are frankly overqualified for the work they are end up doing (especially stuff like exploratory QA or entry level operations tasks). I'm not sure we need to import people to do this work. I think the tech industry in the US should be looking at American non-college graduates to do this kind of work, especially people from families without a history of college degrees. This would be easier than teaching people how to code and it would be a great foot in the door to the tech industry and a solid middle class career, even if they never become coders.

stronglikedan 5y ago
> especially people from families without a history of college degrees. No adult should ever be judged by the "sins of their fathers" in any capacity. Family history should only be a consideration when it's medical history.
- romwell 5y ago
  That's one way to twist "lifting people out of generational poverty", but OK. Fine. Let's just give preference to people who didn't have the privilege of having a college-educated adult as their legal guardian or personal responsible for their upbringing. Does it make it better for you?
pc86 5y ago
I'm not sure it's a good idea to take someone's family history into account when determining whether or not they're qualified to do a certain job. Why should the fact that someone's grandfather went to college hurt them in getting one of these jobs for "people from families without a history of college degrees"? Even if you think this is good for purposes of equity or whatever, how far back do you go? My maternal grandfather was an attorney but neither of my parents went to college. Which group do I fit into?
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- schnable 5y ago
  I wasn't proposing making it a standard for qualification. More like changing job requirements to be attainable to a broader swath of workers and recruiting in areas that we wouldn't normally, like inner city high school grads.
- tediousdemise 5y ago
  This is why most attempts to wrong historical injustices (umbrella term "reparations") are morally questionable. Frankly, I think they are very bad, since they cannot be applied fairly and end up leading to more resentment and tension among social groups.

stronglikedan 5y ago

> especially people from families without a history of college degrees. No adult should ever be judged by the "sins of their fathers" in any capacity. Family history should only be a consideration when it's medical history.

romwell 5y ago
That's one way to twist "lifting people out of generational poverty", but OK. Fine. Let's just give preference to people who didn't have the privilege of having a college-educated adult as their legal guardian or personal responsible for their upbringing. Does it make it better for you?

pc86 5y ago

I'm not sure it's a good idea to take someone's family history into account when determining whether or not they're qualified to do a certain job. Why should the fact that someone's grandfather went to college hurt them in getting one of these jobs for "people from families without a history of college degrees"? Even if you think this is good for purposes of equity or whatever, how far back do you go? My maternal grandfather was an attorney but neither of my parents went to college. Which group do I fit into?

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schnable 5y ago
I wasn't proposing making it a standard for qualification. More like changing job requirements to be attainable to a broader swath of workers and recruiting in areas that we wouldn't normally, like inner city high school grads.
tediousdemise 5y ago
This is why most attempts to wrong historical injustices (umbrella term "reparations") are morally questionable. Frankly, I think they are very bad, since they cannot be applied fairly and end up leading to more resentment and tension among social groups.