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> (e.g., the way surgeons often talk to them) To be fair, surgeons talk to everyone that way. I haven’t met a surgeon who didn’t talk down to other people. My
by wayoutthere 5y ago
> (e.g., the way surgeons often talk to them)
To be fair, surgeons talk to everyone that way. I haven’t met a surgeon who didn’t talk down to other people. My theory is that you have to have a huge fucking ego to cut someone open and believe you’re going to make them better.
- mfer 5y agoNurses working 12 hour shifts spend more time around surgeons than most other people do. It takes it's toll. You can be very good at what you do and confident in it without talking down to others, being arrogant, or treating others poorly. It's a cultural and character thing.
- smabie 5y agoHow many surgeons do you know?
- chucksta 5y agoGood theory, mine was there is such little tolerance for them to be incorrect, so it's "what I said because I said it"
- senortumnus 5y agoSurgeon here, always try to treat nurses with respect and work with them as a team member to accomplish the best care for the patient. Maybe it’s a midwest thing.
- SquibblesRedux 5y agoIndependent of the medical profession, there is definitely a midwest thing. I have traveled a fair amount, and the culture in the US midwest is infinitely more polite, respectful, and helpful that that of the east or west coasts.
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- wayoutthere 5y agoYou don’t fully understand Midwest culture then. You never say anything negative to someone’s face. You say it behind their back. Midwesterners are some of the most passive-aggressive people in the country. They’ll help you out of a sense of obligation then resent you for it. I much prefer the coasts where you know where you stand.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoYou must be using a definition of Midwest that primarily encompasses states east of the Mississippi where snow plows are rare.
- SkyPuncher 5y agoEgo plays a part, but I think med school and residency play a bigger part. Surgery residency is ultra competitive and freaking grueling. Basically putting 10+ years of your life into being a surgeon ends up playing a big part in your core mindset and approach to life. You don't really end up being a surgeon without being fully committed to it.
- 908B64B197 5y agoResidency... honestly sounds like legalized hazing. I can't grasp how it's the most efficient/better way to teach someone something. Many doctors tried to explain it to me but so far nobody could.
- bsder 5y ago> I haven’t met a surgeon who didn’t talk down to other people. Then they are a shit surgeon. You can tell really good surgeons. Their nursing staff are on the ball and completely unafraid to call out a doctor and the surgeon has no problem with this. I went in for wrist surgery. The anesthesiologist was not the surgeon's normal one. He said something slightly off and all 4 nurses immediately stopped him and made him correct himself and repeat the corrected statement 3 times. THAT was a good surgeon.
- the_d3f4ult 5y agoBullshit. Very few doctors behave this way and it's generally any better tolerated in a healthcare workplace than in any other workplace. This is a media construct designed as a scapegoat for the many failures of the american healthcare system. The greatest trick corporate healthcare systems ever played was convincing everyone that physicians are the villains and not the mega-corp that's bleeding every penny out of healthcare.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoHe said surgeons, not doctors.