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Wages are orthogonal to burnout Burnout is a psychological factor

by adolph 5y ago

tomrod 5y ago
Both factors are crucial when retaining people.
SamBam 5y ago
I think you are mostly right about this, but decent pay goes a long way to signaling respect, which is definitely a factor in burnout.
- adolph 5y ago
  Likely not curative after the fact
cogman10 5y ago
Imagine being a programmer earning 60k. Now imagine that your company has a time crunch, During that time crunch they are expecting you to work 80+ hours a week. Now imagine that because of said crunch they say "Hmm, we need some contractors to speed this up." So they hire just enough to reduce your hours from 80 to 75. Now imagine how you'd feel learning all those contractors are earning $120k and with your skill set, you could to if you left your employer (because there's a high demand for devs everywhere). Not only that, but you have a lot more flexibility in your hours and no longer need to do 80+ hour weeks. What would you do? Wage is a huge factor here and the nurses leaving aren't necessarily leaving nursing but instead turning into travel nurses. This creates the vicious cycle the hospitals are currently experiencing. Hospitals have 2 levers to pull to fix this problem. 1. Increase wages so less nurses feel inclined to leave for more money. 2. Increase the number of travel nurses so current nurses aren't pressured into insane and demanding work hours. The lever they are pulling instead, is "hire just enough travel nurses for minimal compliance (maybe) and buy little caesars pizza... maybe. Then complain to media outlets about how lazy nurses are." The reason hospitals aren't fixing this problem is simple. Once they raise their nurses salaries, they will have a HARD time lowering them again.
- adolph 5y ago
  This reads kind of like the first time said programmer saw the rates their company pays for contractors. At the end of the day burnout still isn’t solved by pay.

Wages are orthogonal to burnout Burnout is a psychological factor

by adolph 5y ago

Wages are orthogonal to burnout Burnout is a psychological factor

tomrod 5y ago

Both factors are crucial when retaining people.

SamBam 5y ago

I think you are mostly right about this, but decent pay goes a long way to signaling respect, which is definitely a factor in burnout.

adolph 5y ago
Likely not curative after the fact

cogman10 5y ago

Imagine being a programmer earning 60k. Now imagine that your company has a time crunch, During that time crunch they are expecting you to work 80+ hours a week. Now imagine that because of said crunch they say "Hmm, we need some contractors to speed this up." So they hire just enough to reduce your hours from 80 to 75. Now imagine how you'd feel learning all those contractors are earning $120k and with your skill set, you could to if you left your employer (because there's a high demand for devs everywhere). Not only that, but you have a lot more flexibility in your hours and no longer need to do 80+ hour weeks. What would you do? Wage is a huge factor here and the nurses leaving aren't necessarily leaving nursing but instead turning into travel nurses. This creates the vicious cycle the hospitals are currently experiencing. Hospitals have 2 levers to pull to fix this problem. 1. Increase wages so less nurses feel inclined to leave for more money. 2. Increase the number of travel nurses so current nurses aren't pressured into insane and demanding work hours. The lever they are pulling instead, is "hire just enough travel nurses for minimal compliance (maybe) and buy little caesars pizza... maybe. Then complain to media outlets about how lazy nurses are." The reason hospitals aren't fixing this problem is simple. Once they raise their nurses salaries, they will have a HARD time lowering them again.

adolph 5y ago
This reads kind of like the first time said programmer saw the rates their company pays for contractors. At the end of the day burnout still isn’t solved by pay.