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The outburst insight here seems promising. Gen-X people want real-world activities to do with their millennial relatives that are engaging to both. I'm in that

by tlb 5y ago

The outburst insight here seems promising. Gen-X people want real-world activities to do with their millennial relatives that are engaging to both. I'm in that situation myself. I struggle with arranging such activities, and I'd be happy to fork out real money for curated, guided shared experiences that connect with both generations. The next step would be for the founders to start personally arranging such activities and see what works and which parts are hard.

javajosh 5y ago
>The next step would be for the founders to start personally arranging such activities and see what works and which parts are hard. Yes! If you really believe you have a solution to a problem, then it makes sense to execute that solution in a way that doesn't scale, to verify that, with infinite resources, the solution works, and it feels good. This is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for what comes next, which is (roughly) about making the production more efficient with technology. If you can maintain the utility of the solution and drive the cost down, there may be profit in those hills!
stopagephobia 5y ago
I think the bigger problem here is not just that people have trouble finding those experiences but that all the stuff is targeted at young people. We do some serious work on systemic agephobia and shift some of the cultural focus to People of Age if we want generations to connect.
- agent008t 5y ago
  Just go for a hike together? I thought the pandemic showed us all that we don't need to pay anyone money to connect. We could just go for a walk together and talk. If that unnecessary massive part of the economy was to disappear, we would have more free time to connect, too.
  - pawelmurias 5y ago
    Just taking a walk and talking with someone with no extra activity for me can be often tiring and not that fun if I don't know the person well. Especially for dates I would rather spend even a fair bit of money to do something super fun rather then hope the conversation goes well.
- dymk 5y ago
  “People of age”?
  - RNCTX 5y ago
    Yeah, which is itself a form of condescension, lol. Gonna start calling millennials "people not of value" and call it woke.
phkahler 5y ago
>> curated, guided shared experiences that connect with both generations. I hate to say this, but just GTFO the house and go do something. Anything. Do something neither of you have before, explore the world together. Start by going for a walk someplace. If you don't even know what you like how is someone else going to know? Curated activities are for tourists on vacation.
- AlwaysRock 5y ago
  Yeah this is kind of the issue. For some going for a walk and exploring IS the activity. For some, like op, that doesnt seem like its bonding or actually connecting. It's probably generational and based on how one interacts with others (are most of their friendships online or not).
- what_is_orcas 5y ago
  When I lived in SF, sf.funcheap.com was my go-to for this kind of thing, especially random tinder dates. Everywhere I've lived since has lacked this sort of resource, and it's made meeting people & getting out and exploring much less newbie-friendly. Maybe I just need to build the change I want to see in the world...
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    Woah! Thank you so much for sharing that website
  - istorical 5y ago
    discovering these event discovery websites themselves is one of the challenges. nyc has theskint, differnet neighborhood specific events listings (bushwickdaily, brokelyn come to mind for me), industry/event category specific listings (like different calendars for music / concerts, calendars for comedy, etc). one problem is that these event discovery streams are scattered across mediums. for example you might find some nyc events scattered across some promoter's IG account, some that are advertised on TikTok, some on some old fashioned blog style website like those I initially listed above. aggregators exist as well but they tend to be un-sexy and not likely to find long-tail / niche stuff / cooler more underground stuff. the solution is often to ask people around you or involved in the space you're interested in how they find out about events. they will then tell you about the mailing list, or the IG account, or the website, or whatever. of course, smaller cities and towns often don't have as large of 'scenes'. and anywhere you go, it's often more fruitful to just create the scene you want to be a part of.
Alex3917 5y ago
> I struggle with arranging such activities, and I'd be happy to fork out real money for curated, guided shared experiences that connect with both generations. In the last few months this has actually become a relatively straightforward problem to solve thanks to now having 10x more data on various social activities due to the pandemic.
devwastaken 5y ago
I want a gaming community wherein every month an old multiplayer server based game is revived and people compete for prizes. The problem with this is that it requires good connections to the corporate owners of those games, to get permission to ship the .exe with a simple hex edit changing the master server list host. Or even add game modes. The intent being donations for various charities too of course. There's still an existing community for games like the original PC Red Faction, as crazy as that is. Perfectly fun games, just needs players and some names in game streaming to pick it up.
- coldpie 5y ago
  > The problem with this is that it requires good connections to the corporate owners of those games, to get permission Does it? There might be some games to avoid from publishers that are still active, but I imagine there's a ton of effectively-abandonware games out there to build your idea upon.
  - Loughla 5y ago
    I think that's a chicken and egg problem. The community would exist around games that were/are popular (like Red Faction for example). You can't just shoehorn in any old abandonware game and call it a day for community building.
    - coldpie 5y ago
      To be blunt: my suggestion is to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Most people who technically hold the rights to those older games won't care enough about them to enforce it. If they do, they'll almost certainly start with a C&D which is basically free to respond to. Very little risk. By the time you're large enough for them to care about, you've already succeeded and can ask for permissions properly.
      - devwastaken 5y ago
        Maybe, or maybe they particularly consider a hex edit to be an infringement on their image of the product and think it will harm their chances of selling the rights for a remake. Therefore they sue you because they can. If you can't ask for permission, you're not in a place to ask for forgiveness either.
mwseibel 5y ago
I totally agree!

by tlb 5y ago

javajosh 5y ago

>The next step would be for the founders to start personally arranging such activities and see what works and which parts are hard. Yes! If you really believe you have a solution to a problem, then it makes sense to execute that solution in a way that doesn't scale, to verify that, with infinite resources, the solution works, and it feels good. This is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for what comes next, which is (roughly) about making the production more efficient with technology. If you can maintain the utility of the solution and drive the cost down, there may be profit in those hills!

stopagephobia 5y ago

I think the bigger problem here is not just that people have trouble finding those experiences but that all the stuff is targeted at young people. We do some serious work on systemic agephobia and shift some of the cultural focus to People of Age if we want generations to connect.

agent008t 5y ago
Just go for a hike together? I thought the pandemic showed us all that we don't need to pay anyone money to connect. We could just go for a walk together and talk. If that unnecessary massive part of the economy was to disappear, we would have more free time to connect, too.
- pawelmurias 5y ago
  Just taking a walk and talking with someone with no extra activity for me can be often tiring and not that fun if I don't know the person well. Especially for dates I would rather spend even a fair bit of money to do something super fun rather then hope the conversation goes well.
dymk 5y ago
“People of age”?
- RNCTX 5y ago
  Yeah, which is itself a form of condescension, lol. Gonna start calling millennials "people not of value" and call it woke.

phkahler 5y ago

>> curated, guided shared experiences that connect with both generations. I hate to say this, but just GTFO the house and go do something. Anything. Do something neither of you have before, explore the world together. Start by going for a walk someplace. If you don't even know what you like how is someone else going to know? Curated activities are for tourists on vacation.

AlwaysRock 5y ago
Yeah this is kind of the issue. For some going for a walk and exploring IS the activity. For some, like op, that doesnt seem like its bonding or actually connecting. It's probably generational and based on how one interacts with others (are most of their friendships online or not).
what_is_orcas 5y ago
When I lived in SF, sf.funcheap.com was my go-to for this kind of thing, especially random tinder dates. Everywhere I've lived since has lacked this sort of resource, and it's made meeting people & getting out and exploring much less newbie-friendly. Maybe I just need to build the change I want to see in the world...
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  Woah! Thank you so much for sharing that website
- istorical 5y ago
  discovering these event discovery websites themselves is one of the challenges. nyc has theskint, differnet neighborhood specific events listings (bushwickdaily, brokelyn come to mind for me), industry/event category specific listings (like different calendars for music / concerts, calendars for comedy, etc). one problem is that these event discovery streams are scattered across mediums. for example you might find some nyc events scattered across some promoter's IG account, some that are advertised on TikTok, some on some old fashioned blog style website like those I initially listed above. aggregators exist as well but they tend to be un-sexy and not likely to find long-tail / niche stuff / cooler more underground stuff. the solution is often to ask people around you or involved in the space you're interested in how they find out about events. they will then tell you about the mailing list, or the IG account, or the website, or whatever. of course, smaller cities and towns often don't have as large of 'scenes'. and anywhere you go, it's often more fruitful to just create the scene you want to be a part of.

Alex3917 5y ago

> I struggle with arranging such activities, and I'd be happy to fork out real money for curated, guided shared experiences that connect with both generations. In the last few months this has actually become a relatively straightforward problem to solve thanks to now having 10x more data on various social activities due to the pandemic.

devwastaken 5y ago

I want a gaming community wherein every month an old multiplayer server based game is revived and people compete for prizes. The problem with this is that it requires good connections to the corporate owners of those games, to get permission to ship the .exe with a simple hex edit changing the master server list host. Or even add game modes. The intent being donations for various charities too of course. There's still an existing community for games like the original PC Red Faction, as crazy as that is. Perfectly fun games, just needs players and some names in game streaming to pick it up.

coldpie 5y ago
> The problem with this is that it requires good connections to the corporate owners of those games, to get permission Does it? There might be some games to avoid from publishers that are still active, but I imagine there's a ton of effectively-abandonware games out there to build your idea upon.
- Loughla 5y ago
  I think that's a chicken and egg problem. The community would exist around games that were/are popular (like Red Faction for example). You can't just shoehorn in any old abandonware game and call it a day for community building.
  - coldpie 5y ago
    To be blunt: my suggestion is to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Most people who technically hold the rights to those older games won't care enough about them to enforce it. If they do, they'll almost certainly start with a C&D which is basically free to respond to. Very little risk. By the time you're large enough for them to care about, you've already succeeded and can ask for permissions properly.
    - devwastaken 5y ago
      Maybe, or maybe they particularly consider a hex edit to be an infringement on their image of the product and think it will harm their chances of selling the rights for a remake. Therefore they sue you because they can. If you can't ask for permission, you're not in a place to ask for forgiveness either.

mwseibel 5y ago

I totally agree!