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> By the way, if someone dies because of it, the only person whose conscience it is on is the person who bought a phone they couldn't afford and then didn't pay

> By the way, if someone dies because of it, the only person whose conscience it is on is the person who bought a phone they couldn't afford and then didn't pay for it. Just like if someone died because the car got repo'd and they couldn't drive to a hospital. Sure. What they were thinking trying to buy something without having money, right? And even worse, what they were thinking being poor. They should have bought a very shit phone, closer to what they can afford. And if they lost their job and then couldn't pay for the phone, it's their own fault. /s

FDSGSG 5y ago
If everyone saw things like you, there would probably not be nearly as many poor people with phones. It is these very consequences (repo, deactivation) that make it possible for these phones to be offered at affordable prices. Sadly we don't live in a utopia, especially the poor people of this world don't. I'm sure they'd rather have the phone that stops working and possibly indirectly kills their family when unpaid than no phone at all.
- felipelemos 5y ago
  Curious, as I am from a poor country where: 1. Lots of poor people have phones, sometimes very expensive ones (as these are sought as a symbol status) 2. There is no such thing as repossession. And living abroad makes me believe that it is an phenomenon in United States only. It is illegal in many parts of the world. *edit: word
  - jfrunyon 5y ago
    > There is no such thing as repossession sure there isn't. Guess there's no financing, either, then, huh?
    - felipelemos 5y ago
      Not only there is no repossession but almost everything is sold in installments. You can pay in installments even in supermarkets. In that case what makes the system works is the credit system. When almost everything you buy you must use installments then losing your credit is a terrible situation and the only solution is to pay (or try to). In the beginning of my career I worked in a small local ISP and usually the middle/high class were a bigger part of the people with overdue payments, while people living in worse neighbourhoods were almost always paying in time. They can't afford to not pay. Sometimes we live in a bubble that makes we think the way we live and the way things are are the only way things should be. We must be careful to not extend our vision of things to everyone and everything, the world is much bigger than our backyard. *edit: a paragraph

FDSGSG 5y ago

If everyone saw things like you, there would probably not be nearly as many poor people with phones. It is these very consequences (repo, deactivation) that make it possible for these phones to be offered at affordable prices. Sadly we don't live in a utopia, especially the poor people of this world don't. I'm sure they'd rather have the phone that stops working and possibly indirectly kills their family when unpaid than no phone at all.

felipelemos 5y ago
Curious, as I am from a poor country where: 1. Lots of poor people have phones, sometimes very expensive ones (as these are sought as a symbol status) 2. There is no such thing as repossession. And living abroad makes me believe that it is an phenomenon in United States only. It is illegal in many parts of the world. *edit: word
- jfrunyon 5y ago
  > There is no such thing as repossession sure there isn't. Guess there's no financing, either, then, huh?
  - felipelemos 5y ago
    Not only there is no repossession but almost everything is sold in installments. You can pay in installments even in supermarkets. In that case what makes the system works is the credit system. When almost everything you buy you must use installments then losing your credit is a terrible situation and the only solution is to pay (or try to). In the beginning of my career I worked in a small local ISP and usually the middle/high class were a bigger part of the people with overdue payments, while people living in worse neighbourhoods were almost always paying in time. They can't afford to not pay. Sometimes we live in a bubble that makes we think the way we live and the way things are are the only way things should be. We must be careful to not extend our vision of things to everyone and everything, the world is much bigger than our backyard. *edit: a paragraph