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Trump was anti China since the beginning, he put sanctions on China that put us into a pseudo trade war. There’s one side of the political aisle that is hyper f

Trump was anti China since the beginning, he put sanctions on China that put us into a pseudo trade war. There’s one side of the political aisle that is hyper focused on immaterial things like LGBTQ rights and racism, and I think everyone reading this knows which side that is.

systemvoltage 5y ago
It is unbelivable to me that many educated people on HN cannot put themselves in the shoes of the other person and simply sit down and imagine the narratives flip. It's like a rotating doll illusion. Sometimes it looks like its revolving left, sometimes the opposite. It shows the grip of politicians on their followers. It is impossible to imagine someone switching sides today. Ever want to embarrass someone? Ask them to name a couple of things their party does wrong. Or ask them if they can praise one thing about the other party. We're in the deepest delusion in the history. It is time to put down the pitch forks and listen to reason, rationality, logic, kindness and openmindedness. Worse is that they'll attack me for raising these questions (how dare you to be centrist?). These people need help.
- benreesman 5y ago
  To both the parent and GP: I posted a comment that explicitly pointed out that blaming this or that political party is worse than useless. Of all the places on the Internet to woof for “red” or “blue” this seems like an especially weird one. It’s a fact of life that there’s a bunch of tribal instinct wired into Homo Sapiens, anyone who’s ever been to a professional sporting event knows that. But handling critical, complicated, delicate issues around the governance of the human race with all the subtlety and nuance of a drunk Chelsea supporter in a pub is uh, not the move. I don’t know how many times humanity needs to go through this tiresome exercise where the prosperous just can’t keep their hand out of the cookie jar, distract the body politic with deliberately inflamed tribal identification, and push it until the plebs epater les bourgeoisie, and we get a new set of assholes owning the damned water every needs to drink before we get to some kind of semi-stable Nash equilibrium, but if I never heard a politician’s name or some appeal to identity politics ever again: it would be too soon.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    Amen, you said it better.

systemvoltage 5y ago

It is unbelivable to me that many educated people on HN cannot put themselves in the shoes of the other person and simply sit down and imagine the narratives flip. It's like a rotating doll illusion. Sometimes it looks like its revolving left, sometimes the opposite. It shows the grip of politicians on their followers. It is impossible to imagine someone switching sides today. Ever want to embarrass someone? Ask them to name a couple of things their party does wrong. Or ask them if they can praise one thing about the other party. We're in the deepest delusion in the history. It is time to put down the pitch forks and listen to reason, rationality, logic, kindness and openmindedness. Worse is that they'll attack me for raising these questions (how dare you to be centrist?). These people need help.

benreesman 5y ago
To both the parent and GP: I posted a comment that explicitly pointed out that blaming this or that political party is worse than useless. Of all the places on the Internet to woof for “red” or “blue” this seems like an especially weird one. It’s a fact of life that there’s a bunch of tribal instinct wired into Homo Sapiens, anyone who’s ever been to a professional sporting event knows that. But handling critical, complicated, delicate issues around the governance of the human race with all the subtlety and nuance of a drunk Chelsea supporter in a pub is uh, not the move. I don’t know how many times humanity needs to go through this tiresome exercise where the prosperous just can’t keep their hand out of the cookie jar, distract the body politic with deliberately inflamed tribal identification, and push it until the plebs epater les bourgeoisie, and we get a new set of assholes owning the damned water every needs to drink before we get to some kind of semi-stable Nash equilibrium, but if I never heard a politician’s name or some appeal to identity politics ever again: it would be too soon.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  Amen, you said it better.