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Not true with last year's Pixels in several European countries. We got $200 Bose headphones during preorders. There was never a better time to buy them after th

Not true with last year's Pixels in several European countries. We got $200 Bose headphones during preorders. There was never a better time to buy them after that. Probably the same thing with the Pixel 6/6P this year.

krzyk 5y ago
> Probably the same thing with the Pixel 6/6P this year. This is a big bet, but based on history Pixel 2, 3 and 4. It was better to wait for either Black Friday or Xmas sales. I didn't look at Pixel 5 (wasn't interested in it). (This ignores US based promos from service providers)
krzyk 5y ago
And do you need $200 Bose headphones? Do you think it will be easy to sell them? Better get $200 off of the phone price then get freebies.
- hocuspocus 5y ago
  It's super easy to resell them, it took me a couple days last year even though they were the QC35 II (which were heavily discounted right and left around Black Friday). It'll be only easier this year with the 700. Sure, it'd be much easier for everyone to get a $200 discount but that just hasn't happened at all after preorders.
  - krzyk 5y ago
    > Sure, it'd be much easier for everyone to get a $200 discount but that just hasn't happened at all after preorders. Yes it did: https://www.engadget.com/2018-11-15-google-pixel-3-black-friday-deals.html https://www.engadget.com/2018-11-15-google-pixel-3-black-fri... That's the reason I prefer to wait.
    - hocuspocus 5y ago
      That's completely irrelevant to last year's models. And there were no preorders for the Pixel 3.
      - krzyk 5y ago
        Irelevant for Pixel 5 (which was more of a midrange phone compared to the rest of Pixels), but relevant for Pixel 3 and 4 at least. There were preorders for Pixel 3, I know because I preordered it.
        hocuspocus 5y ago
        You're right, I checked, there were pre-orders, which made zero sense given there was no promotional offer of any kind and very little demand then. Anyway the Pixel 3 and 4 were pretty big flops. Pricey and uninteresting devices, with abysmal battery life for the non-XL variants. I remember third party sellers fire-selling their stock of Pixel 3s during summer 2019. The 5 and the 6 are priced a lot more reasonably, Google probably doesn't need to do anything to sell their current stock, so if you believe you'll get better than $200 headphones, good luck with that.
        krzyk 5y ago
        Pixel 3 and 4 were great devices, and 4 is one of its kind because it has Face Unlock. And has better CPU then 5, which was more mid range phone. If Google ads $200 headphones, it means they are afraid they won't be able to sell a lot of phones. I wanted to buy a second Pixel 4, year after release, there was no such option it was sold out. I had non-XL variants (I have normal hands, XL are for giants) and I don't complain about battery, but I'm always near places where I can charge my phone. At work I just put it on Pixel Stand.
washadjeffmad 5y ago
I think that was a loss leading tactic to encourage sales. Google can't gauge an early-adopter market that isn't buying their products. Pixels are more expensive in Europe and no Bose headsets were ever included in the US version. If it weren't something they intended to entice Europeans, wouldn't they have provided a similar deal elsewhere?
- hocuspocus 5y ago
  The Pixel 5 was actually cheaper in Europe because it didn't support mmWave 5G. Sure, it's a loss leading tactic. And that's my point. Outside the US, Google is using incredibly weird, inconsistent and half-assed marketing tactics. If you believe there will be something better than getting free Bose 700 headphones, you'll probably be disappointed. I ordered my Pixel 5 on day one, and I was waiting for good deals throughout the year so that I could recommend it to family members, and that just didn't happen. And the 5a wasn't even released in most of the world.

krzyk 5y ago

> Probably the same thing with the Pixel 6/6P this year. This is a big bet, but based on history Pixel 2, 3 and 4. It was better to wait for either Black Friday or Xmas sales. I didn't look at Pixel 5 (wasn't interested in it). (This ignores US based promos from service providers)

krzyk 5y ago

And do you need $200 Bose headphones? Do you think it will be easy to sell them? Better get $200 off of the phone price then get freebies.

hocuspocus 5y ago
It's super easy to resell them, it took me a couple days last year even though they were the QC35 II (which were heavily discounted right and left around Black Friday). It'll be only easier this year with the 700. Sure, it'd be much easier for everyone to get a $200 discount but that just hasn't happened at all after preorders.
- krzyk 5y ago
  > Sure, it'd be much easier for everyone to get a $200 discount but that just hasn't happened at all after preorders. Yes it did: https://www.engadget.com/2018-11-15-google-pixel-3-black-friday-deals.html https://www.engadget.com/2018-11-15-google-pixel-3-black-fri... That's the reason I prefer to wait.
  - hocuspocus 5y ago
    That's completely irrelevant to last year's models. And there were no preorders for the Pixel 3.
    - krzyk 5y ago
      Irelevant for Pixel 5 (which was more of a midrange phone compared to the rest of Pixels), but relevant for Pixel 3 and 4 at least. There were preorders for Pixel 3, I know because I preordered it.
      - hocuspocus 5y ago
        You're right, I checked, there were pre-orders, which made zero sense given there was no promotional offer of any kind and very little demand then. Anyway the Pixel 3 and 4 were pretty big flops. Pricey and uninteresting devices, with abysmal battery life for the non-XL variants. I remember third party sellers fire-selling their stock of Pixel 3s during summer 2019. The 5 and the 6 are priced a lot more reasonably, Google probably doesn't need to do anything to sell their current stock, so if you believe you'll get better than $200 headphones, good luck with that.
        krzyk 5y ago
        Pixel 3 and 4 were great devices, and 4 is one of its kind because it has Face Unlock. And has better CPU then 5, which was more mid range phone. If Google ads $200 headphones, it means they are afraid they won't be able to sell a lot of phones. I wanted to buy a second Pixel 4, year after release, there was no such option it was sold out. I had non-XL variants (I have normal hands, XL are for giants) and I don't complain about battery, but I'm always near places where I can charge my phone. At work I just put it on Pixel Stand.

washadjeffmad 5y ago

I think that was a loss leading tactic to encourage sales. Google can't gauge an early-adopter market that isn't buying their products. Pixels are more expensive in Europe and no Bose headsets were ever included in the US version. If it weren't something they intended to entice Europeans, wouldn't they have provided a similar deal elsewhere?

hocuspocus 5y ago
The Pixel 5 was actually cheaper in Europe because it didn't support mmWave 5G. Sure, it's a loss leading tactic. And that's my point. Outside the US, Google is using incredibly weird, inconsistent and half-assed marketing tactics. If you believe there will be something better than getting free Bose 700 headphones, you'll probably be disappointed. I ordered my Pixel 5 on day one, and I was waiting for good deals throughout the year so that I could recommend it to family members, and that just didn't happen. And the 5a wasn't even released in most of the world.