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They claim they are in desperate need and that's why they have to hire foreigners. Surely 6 years is enough time for them to rectify the situation if it were as

by kfprt 5y ago

They claim they are in desperate need and that's why they have to hire foreigners. Surely 6 years is enough time for them to rectify the situation if it were as desperate as they claim. If they can't find a solution in 6 years then they are either unmotivated or unwilling. This is their problem, not ours. If your business was to collapse in 6 years why would you not spend that time finding a solution.

random314 5y ago
Checkout levels.fyi to see the salaries offered by Facebook. Facebook is not a university offering training. The job is not similar to plumbing where after a couple of months of "training" one person becomes fungible with another one.
darth_avocado 5y ago
Because you’re assuming a static system. If everything stopped moving, you need x people, x us citizens that you could train, you had 6 years where the people stay with you, and you have a guarantee that after you put 6 years the people will stay with you till you get back what you invested in these people, then yes that is a viable situation. However, things move and move fast. And it’s not like companies don’t try to find solutions, they do, but they balance them with their need to stay competitive in the market. That is why you see initiatives all around.
- kfprt 5y ago
  If you have both money and time and can't/won't find a solution then your business deserves to fail. That's capitalism. If everyone plays by the same rules then there is no competitive disadvantage. I am an optimist and believe that American corporations will rise to the challenge of reduced H1B abuse.
  - darth_avocado 5y ago
    Sure everyone will play by the same rules in the local market and there wont be competitive advantage. But the world simply wont wait around for it. You’ll have the same labor working on similar problems, just not in America. Just look at how big tiktok is now. Facebook cannot afford to not hire and stick to domestic competitors.
    - kfprt 5y ago
      Facebook does not get a vote. Whether or not they can afford something is immaterial. On a separate note America's real competitive advantage is size. America can clone tiktok if need be.

by kfprt 5y ago

random314 5y ago

Checkout levels.fyi to see the salaries offered by Facebook. Facebook is not a university offering training. The job is not similar to plumbing where after a couple of months of "training" one person becomes fungible with another one.

darth_avocado 5y ago

Because you’re assuming a static system. If everything stopped moving, you need x people, x us citizens that you could train, you had 6 years where the people stay with you, and you have a guarantee that after you put 6 years the people will stay with you till you get back what you invested in these people, then yes that is a viable situation. However, things move and move fast. And it’s not like companies don’t try to find solutions, they do, but they balance them with their need to stay competitive in the market. That is why you see initiatives all around.

kfprt 5y ago
If you have both money and time and can't/won't find a solution then your business deserves to fail. That's capitalism. If everyone plays by the same rules then there is no competitive disadvantage. I am an optimist and believe that American corporations will rise to the challenge of reduced H1B abuse.
- darth_avocado 5y ago
  Sure everyone will play by the same rules in the local market and there wont be competitive advantage. But the world simply wont wait around for it. You’ll have the same labor working on similar problems, just not in America. Just look at how big tiktok is now. Facebook cannot afford to not hire and stick to domestic competitors.
  - kfprt 5y ago
    Facebook does not get a vote. Whether or not they can afford something is immaterial. On a separate note America's real competitive advantage is size. America can clone tiktok if need be.