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Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as e

by buu700 5y ago

Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos. Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.

bduerst 5y ago
Yeah this "what about white men?" doesn't feel genuine given there is a white man on the page, the new tensor feature for detecting POC, historical context of marketing in general, and the fact the Apple iphone page is comparable...
dexterdog 5y ago
In what statistical universe could it have played out like it did?
- smt88 5y ago
  Any random one, just as it's possible to flip a coin and get heads a few times in a row.
  - dexterdog 5y ago
    Except we're talking about over 20 pictures. Do you know how often you'll get heads 20 times in a row? I'll give you a hint, it's in the neighborhood of 1 in 2 million.
    - smt88 5y ago
      As others have said, the large group of pictures of non-white people is about a specific feature: a camera that does a better job of capturing darker skin tones. So we can ignore those. The other pictures I see are: - White woman - Asian man - White(?) man (the guy with a man-bun who's jumping) - White(?) man looking at mountains (his hand looks beige, so he could be any lighter-skinned race) - Black woman - Black man/woman - White man/woman - Asian family - Asian man/woman and Black woman - children that are too small to see - Asian woman - Asian woman That's 20 people, 15 of whom seem to have an identifiable race. Of those 15, 3 are White, which is 20%. The US is ~60% White and humanity is ~15% White. So what exactly are you complaining about? In the grand universe of marketing pictures, White people have been dramatically overrepresented. Did you complain about that in the past? I think they will survive being slightly underrepresented this time.
Gigachad 5y ago
These aren’t stock images, they are meant to show what the pixel camera looks like. But at google, you can assume these things are all _very_ carefully considered. Usually all google marketing images contain exactly equal numbers of white/black and male/female people. It doesn’t really matter but it does stick out how they are all exactly proportioned in every graphic.

by buu700 5y ago

bduerst 5y ago

Yeah this "what about white men?" doesn't feel genuine given there is a white man on the page, the new tensor feature for detecting POC, historical context of marketing in general, and the fact the Apple iphone page is comparable...

dexterdog 5y ago

In what statistical universe could it have played out like it did?

smt88 5y ago
Any random one, just as it's possible to flip a coin and get heads a few times in a row.
- dexterdog 5y ago
  Except we're talking about over 20 pictures. Do you know how often you'll get heads 20 times in a row? I'll give you a hint, it's in the neighborhood of 1 in 2 million.
  - smt88 5y ago
    As others have said, the large group of pictures of non-white people is about a specific feature: a camera that does a better job of capturing darker skin tones. So we can ignore those. The other pictures I see are: - White woman - Asian man - White(?) man (the guy with a man-bun who's jumping) - White(?) man looking at mountains (his hand looks beige, so he could be any lighter-skinned race) - Black woman - Black man/woman - White man/woman - Asian family - Asian man/woman and Black woman - children that are too small to see - Asian woman - Asian woman That's 20 people, 15 of whom seem to have an identifiable race. Of those 15, 3 are White, which is 20%. The US is ~60% White and humanity is ~15% White. So what exactly are you complaining about? In the grand universe of marketing pictures, White people have been dramatically overrepresented. Did you complain about that in the past? I think they will survive being slightly underrepresented this time.

Gigachad 5y ago

These aren’t stock images, they are meant to show what the pixel camera looks like. But at google, you can assume these things are all _very_ carefully considered. Usually all google marketing images contain exactly equal numbers of white/black and male/female people. It doesn’t really matter but it does stick out how they are all exactly proportioned in every graphic.