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When it comes to the topic of H1-B exploitation, there is no way I'm going to say that it doesn't exist. But I will say that there is a huge gap between FAANG

When it comes to the topic of H1-B exploitation, there is no way I'm going to say that it doesn't exist. But I will say that there is a huge gap between FAANG H1B, and Tata/Infosys/etc H1B abuse.

Zigurd 5y ago
This. FAANGS have the money and the high end needs to use H1-B correctly. If they aren't doing it right, they have no excuse. More visas should be directed toward companies that are doing the right thing.
- closeparen 5y ago
  H1B is supposed to be about guest workers for short-term needs. Treating H1Bs as long-term career staffers who are going to buy houses, have kids, climb the ladder, etc. in the way that FAANG do, is a different kind of misuse, but it's also not in keeping with the spirit of the program.
  - nrmitchi 5y ago
    An H1B is only "valid" for 3 years. It can be extended once for an additional 3 years. It being FAANG doesn't change that. Your argument appears to be against the fact that additional extensions are possible after an an individual has filed for permanent residency, but the process is delayed (often by a completely inhumane amount of time). So your problem isn't so much with the H1B visa, but with the fact that people can apply for permanent residency and then be held in limbo for the rest of their life? If it wasn't for the absurd delay in processing permanent residency applications, H1B's would only last for 6 years; well within the span of "temporary".
    - Zigurd 5y ago
      At 6 years the employer can help get them a green card, which if they are within the letter and spirit of workers they can't find at any price in the US, is perfectly fine.
      - kfprt 5y ago
        They can apply for a green card but they're never going to get it if they're from India or China. I don't think this was anticipated when the law was written.
    - kfprt 5y ago
      The green card infinite extension is just a bug in the system. H1B was very much supposed to be a temporary program while the company can train an American. It's almost entirely misuse bar a few PhD's.
      - nrmitchi 5y ago
        So your problem is with allowing companies to sponsor Permanent Residency applications at all?
        kfprt 5y ago
        I'm not an immigration lawyer but I assume sponsoring a permanent resident would be covered under a different program with different rules. Trying to shoehorn this into H1B is very much the wrong program and abuse. The intent of the program was that the green card application would have been accepted or rejected within a reasonable time frame and not exist as a way to extend the temporary H1B indefinitely.
        nrmitchi 5y ago
        Literally 0 people who are in limbo on an extended H1B would object to green card applications being accepted or rejected within a reasonable time frame.

When it comes to the topic of H1-B exploitation, there is no way I'm going to say that it doesn't exist. But I will say that there is a huge gap between FAANG H1B, and Tata/Infosys/etc H1B abuse.

Zigurd 5y ago

This. FAANGS have the money and the high end needs to use H1-B correctly. If they aren't doing it right, they have no excuse. More visas should be directed toward companies that are doing the right thing.

closeparen 5y ago
H1B is supposed to be about guest workers for short-term needs. Treating H1Bs as long-term career staffers who are going to buy houses, have kids, climb the ladder, etc. in the way that FAANG do, is a different kind of misuse, but it's also not in keeping with the spirit of the program.
- nrmitchi 5y ago
  An H1B is only "valid" for 3 years. It can be extended once for an additional 3 years. It being FAANG doesn't change that. Your argument appears to be against the fact that additional extensions are possible after an an individual has filed for permanent residency, but the process is delayed (often by a completely inhumane amount of time). So your problem isn't so much with the H1B visa, but with the fact that people can apply for permanent residency and then be held in limbo for the rest of their life? If it wasn't for the absurd delay in processing permanent residency applications, H1B's would only last for 6 years; well within the span of "temporary".
  - Zigurd 5y ago
    At 6 years the employer can help get them a green card, which if they are within the letter and spirit of workers they can't find at any price in the US, is perfectly fine.
    - kfprt 5y ago
      They can apply for a green card but they're never going to get it if they're from India or China. I don't think this was anticipated when the law was written.
  - kfprt 5y ago
    The green card infinite extension is just a bug in the system. H1B was very much supposed to be a temporary program while the company can train an American. It's almost entirely misuse bar a few PhD's.
    - nrmitchi 5y ago
      So your problem is with allowing companies to sponsor Permanent Residency applications at all?
      - kfprt 5y ago
        I'm not an immigration lawyer but I assume sponsoring a permanent resident would be covered under a different program with different rules. Trying to shoehorn this into H1B is very much the wrong program and abuse. The intent of the program was that the green card application would have been accepted or rejected within a reasonable time frame and not exist as a way to extend the temporary H1B indefinitely.
        nrmitchi 5y ago
        Literally 0 people who are in limbo on an extended H1B would object to green card applications being accepted or rejected within a reasonable time frame.