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Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the wh
by eric_b 5y ago
Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the whole page. Google would be (rightfully) chastised.
- buu700 5y agoIs it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos. Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.
- bduerst 5y agoYeah this "what about white men?" doesn't feel genuine given there is a white man on the page, the new tensor feature for detecting POC, historical context of marketing in general, and the fact the Apple iphone page is comparable...
- dexterdog 5y agoIn what statistical universe could it have played out like it did?
- smt88 5y agoAny random one, just as it's possible to flip a coin and get heads a few times in a row.
- dexterdog 5y agoExcept we're talking about over 20 pictures. Do you know how often you'll get heads 20 times in a row? I'll give you a hint, it's in the neighborhood of 1 in 2 million.
- smt88 5y agoAs others have said, the large group of pictures of non-white people is about a specific feature: a camera that does a better job of capturing darker skin tones. So we can ignore those. The other pictures I see are: - White woman - Asian man - White(?) man (the guy with a man-bun who's jumping) - White(?) man looking at mountains (his hand looks beige, so he could be any lighter-skinned race) - Black woman - Black man/woman - White man/woman - Asian family - Asian man/woman and Black woman - children that are too small to see - Asian woman - Asian woman That's 20 people, 15 of whom seem to have an identifiable race. Of those 15, 3 are White, which is 20%. The US is ~60% White and humanity is ~15% White. So what exactly are you complaining about? In the grand universe of marketing pictures, White people have been dramatically overrepresented. Did you complain about that in the past? I think they will survive being slightly underrepresented this time.
- Gigachad 5y agoThese aren’t stock images, they are meant to show what the pixel camera looks like. But at google, you can assume these things are all _very_ carefully considered. Usually all google marketing images contain exactly equal numbers of white/black and male/female people. It doesn’t really matter but it does stick out how they are all exactly proportioned in every graphic.
- khqc 5y agohttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vAkOJHbWYn9AvxSOmlHp_1VrzWX5kV_aHy2bLnY495hyZqtUriGK1JQZMBIZFihvvMjKuQtY5inHMf20OSDSxEGupt4GKq1Z8GU=rw-e365-w1024 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vAkOJHbWYn9AvxSOmlHp_1VrzW... Does this meet your requirement?
- eric_b 5y agoIf you read my comment, the answer is "no". That appears to be a white woman, and I was specifically talking about white "guys" which I used to mean "males"
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- ehsankia 5y agoNot quite on the store page, but this is the full ad-campaign: https://i1.wp.com/9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2021/09/pixel-6-magazine-ad-cover.jpeg https://i1.wp.com/9to5google.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/...
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- 28921247 5y agoReversing the distribution only sounds logical if you reduce your sample to this one instance and ignore the entire history of product marketing. Which is convenient for some people, and totally bonkers for anyone who isn’t CW&H. Having to squint to find anyone who even remotely resembles you is the lived experience of millions of people. Perhaps you should reflect on why you can’t relate to people in an ad that look different from you? It’s a skill that someone of us don’t have the luxury of not developing.