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> good intentions on both sides creating hell Not really. The immigrant folks who get brought in on these visas are basically exploited for harder work on low
by busymom0 5y ago
> good intentions on both sides creating hell
Not really.
The immigrant folks who get brought in on these visas are basically exploited for harder work on lower wages in comparison to locals. FAANG tech companies care about low labour cost, employees who won't complain and won't report shady stuff going on in the company. H1B visas are perfect for that.
Immigrants make up nearly 3/4 of silicon valley tech workforce:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens...
H1B visas essentially gives full power over an immigrant to the employer because these employers have rules that if you don't get promoted every 1-2 years, you get fired - which means H1B visa employees get deported back. So these immigrants end up working much harder for lower pay to not get deported. Meanwhile the companies get cheap labour while virtue signalling about diversity.
Companies want employees who will stick around for as long as needed. H1B usually cannot leave the company for a decade because of the conditions imposed on the visa. Companies will also have policies of allowing greencard sponsorship after few years of the applicant working with them. This keeps the immigrant stuck with that company for over a decade and the company can get away with very little payraises or benefits. The only options for that H1B is to either find another company which can sponsor them (almost impossible) or to leave the country.
This is also a reason why immigrants are hesitant to report work illegalities and thus the company prefer hiring them even more.
This is also why all the tech companies are against any politician who wants to cut their supply of H1B visas.
The tech companies claim it's about diversity but it's far from it. Here's proof that this isn't about "diversity" or caring about immigrants but more about exploitation:
76% of the h1b go to Indians and 10% goes to China. Does diversity only come from India and China? Source:
https://www.gadgetsnow.com/slideshows/h1b-visa-these-countries-got-the-most-approvals/india/photolist/64098647.cms https://www.gadgetsnow.com/slideshows/h1b-visa-these-countri...
Also when you get immigrants from India and China on H1B visas, they are less likely to complain about work place illegalities. Us Indians and Asians are often quite timid plus don't want to stir shit which gets us deported.
Few ways to fix this:
1. Increase the minimum salary for H1B to be much higher.
2. Force employers to give yearly raises to the H1B.
3. Allow H1B to change employers.
4. Only allow students to come who once graduated, get treated the same as a citizen and their immigration status isn't inquired.
These will remove the incentives for employers to exploit immigrants.
These 2 videos explain it well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFYj8Sg3x_c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFYj8Sg3x_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-3FYea07pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-3FYea07pc
- nrmitchi 5y agoWhen it comes to the topic of H1-B exploitation, there is no way I'm going to say that it doesn't exist. But I will say that there is a huge gap between FAANG H1B, and Tata/Infosys/etc H1B abuse.
- Zigurd 5y agoThis. FAANGS have the money and the high end needs to use H1-B correctly. If they aren't doing it right, they have no excuse. More visas should be directed toward companies that are doing the right thing.
- closeparen 5y agoH1B is supposed to be about guest workers for short-term needs. Treating H1Bs as long-term career staffers who are going to buy houses, have kids, climb the ladder, etc. in the way that FAANG do, is a different kind of misuse, but it's also not in keeping with the spirit of the program.
- nrmitchi 5y agoAn H1B is only "valid" for 3 years. It can be extended once for an additional 3 years. It being FAANG doesn't change that. Your argument appears to be against the fact that additional extensions are possible after an an individual has filed for permanent residency, but the process is delayed (often by a completely inhumane amount of time). So your problem isn't so much with the H1B visa, but with the fact that people can apply for permanent residency and then be held in limbo for the rest of their life? If it wasn't for the absurd delay in processing permanent residency applications, H1B's would only last for 6 years; well within the span of "temporary".
- Zigurd 5y agoAt 6 years the employer can help get them a green card, which if they are within the letter and spirit of workers they can't find at any price in the US, is perfectly fine.