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So if it’s released, why does my phone say there are no updates available… /s

by Aaargh20318 5y ago

Zigurd 5y ago
This is a serious problem that Google has not worked nearly hard enough. Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. But not having that for most OEMs is, among other things, a security problem.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  but how will those poor carriers and handset vendors "add value" or "differentiate" if they are forced to use stock Android? won't someone think of the children of the employees of those companies? seriously, "adding value" has never once "added" any "value" for the end user. not once.
- gog 5y ago
  > Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. Not really, I live in Croatia (EU member) and the product is not available in my country.
  - vetinari 5y ago
    You are not alone; Google store is available only in 12 of 27 EU countries (it is not in a single Eastern-European country and neither in Cyprus, Greece, Luxembourg and Malta).
    - xorcist 5y ago
      While true, the whole point of the EU is the open market. It should be convenient to order from any member country. Not all shops will ship abroad, but buying a smartphone shouldn't pose a problem.
      - vetinari 5y ago
        In shops other than Google's, yes. But Google will tell you they are not in your country, they won't ship there and you can just look: > We aren’t in your region yet > > You can still browse our products in any of the other regions.
- saiya-jin 5y ago
  Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there. They could if they wanted, but even ie Xiaomi stopped releasing their phones with it. And their normal products are crapfest of highest calibre from OS level (at least my Mi 9 is).
  - Aaargh20318 5y ago
    > Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there Google could just enforce it, like they enforce so many things, by tying it to the Play Services license. If Google wanted to prevent manufacturers from 'customizing` (ruining) their Android phones, they could do so.
mirekrusin 5y ago
You need to give them your money first.

So if it’s released, why does my phone say there are no updates available… /s

This is a serious problem that Google has not worked nearly hard enough. Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. But not having that for most OEMs is, among other things, a security problem.

naikrovek 5y ago
but how will those poor carriers and handset vendors "add value" or "differentiate" if they are forced to use stock Android? won't someone think of the children of the employees of those companies? seriously, "adding value" has never once "added" any "value" for the end user. not once.
gog 5y ago
> Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. Not really, I live in Croatia (EU member) and the product is not available in my country.
- vetinari 5y ago
  You are not alone; Google store is available only in 12 of 27 EU countries (it is not in a single Eastern-European country and neither in Cyprus, Greece, Luxembourg and Malta).
  - xorcist 5y ago
    While true, the whole point of the EU is the open market. It should be convenient to order from any member country. Not all shops will ship abroad, but buying a smartphone shouldn't pose a problem.
    - vetinari 5y ago
      In shops other than Google's, yes. But Google will tell you they are not in your country, they won't ship there and you can just look: > We aren’t in your region yet > > You can still browse our products in any of the other regions.
saiya-jin 5y ago
Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there. They could if they wanted, but even ie Xiaomi stopped releasing their phones with it. And their normal products are crapfest of highest calibre from OS level (at least my Mi 9 is).
- Aaargh20318 5y ago
  > Its not google's fault that manufacturers are greedy for user data and basically nobody releases Android One phones, the option is there Google could just enforce it, like they enforce so many things, by tying it to the Play Services license. If Google wanted to prevent manufacturers from 'customizing` (ruining) their Android phones, they could do so.

mirekrusin 5y ago

You need to give them your money first.