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I think that the new laptops are a huge deal for Apple. Some folks argue that we're celebrating them putting back ports that should have been there from the beg

I think that the new laptops are a huge deal for Apple. Some folks argue that we're celebrating them putting back ports that should have been there from the beginning. And that the keyboards should have never gotten so bad. I see it as a celebration. It's essentially an acknowledgement that they were wrong about all that, and they've built a heavier and "uglier" machine that people actually want/need. As SJ said, design is how it works. Dongletown + bad keyboards was a bad design, and now they're back to prioritizing usability.

jzb 5y ago
An actual acknowledgement would be cool.
- mccolin 5y ago
  An acknowledgment of what? Apple does not owe you anything. You chose to buy their products, with or without the need for dongles. They have allowed feedback and the market to correct this by offering revised products.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Apple doesn't allow any leeway though. It's "my way or the highway" with displays, keyboards, ports, headphone jacks, charging cables, programming languages, API entitlements, app distribution, content integration, graphics API, coreutil versions, package managers and even your goddamn operating system. If I had room to protest, I would.
- dymk 5y ago
  What exactly do you want to see them say, and how?
  - mixmastamyk 5y ago
    "We're sorry. We f'd up." They did something similar with the Mac Pro, didn't they? I don't particularly care.
    - dymk 5y ago
      Apple actually said “we fucked up” in a press release?
      - mixmastamyk 5y ago
        Paraphrased, yes. :-D
  - pram 5y ago
    “We are very, very sorry. We were so wrong. We didn’t listen to all your posts on Reddit and HN, but we should have. To make it up we will be releasing a $500 M1 Max that is fully upgradable, repairable, and runs Arch Linux” - Tim Cook
    - dymk 5y ago
      And each MacBook comes with a small vial of authentic Apple Executive Team tears. That’s how you know it’s a real apology.

jzb 5y ago

An actual acknowledgement would be cool.

mccolin 5y ago
An acknowledgment of what? Apple does not owe you anything. You chose to buy their products, with or without the need for dongles. They have allowed feedback and the market to correct this by offering revised products.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Apple doesn't allow any leeway though. It's "my way or the highway" with displays, keyboards, ports, headphone jacks, charging cables, programming languages, API entitlements, app distribution, content integration, graphics API, coreutil versions, package managers and even your goddamn operating system. If I had room to protest, I would.
dymk 5y ago
What exactly do you want to see them say, and how?
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  "We're sorry. We f'd up." They did something similar with the Mac Pro, didn't they? I don't particularly care.
  - dymk 5y ago
    Apple actually said “we fucked up” in a press release?
    - mixmastamyk 5y ago
      Paraphrased, yes. :-D
- pram 5y ago
  “We are very, very sorry. We were so wrong. We didn’t listen to all your posts on Reddit and HN, but we should have. To make it up we will be releasing a $500 M1 Max that is fully upgradable, repairable, and runs Arch Linux” - Tim Cook
  - dymk 5y ago
    And each MacBook comes with a small vial of authentic Apple Executive Team tears. That’s how you know it’s a real apology.