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That's how Android felt for me. Too many knobs, and a lack of good apps. I'll take Apple's integration over what amounts to nothing any day of the week.

postalrat 5y ago
What are these good apps? I'd like to check some out.
- easton 5y ago
  I don't know if it's worth changing phones over, but Overcast is a really nice podcast player (smart speed works very, very well). Apollo is nice for reddit.
  - account_b 5y ago
    AntennaPod and Slide for Reddit. And I raise by Newpipe and uBlock (in Firefox)!
  - ehsankia 5y ago
    I think some of that might be what you're used to. There are plenty of quality podcast apps on Android, such as PocketCasts. Same for reddit app, there are dozens. Maybe not as flashy but I've been using rif for almost 10 years now and it has been very solid.
    - easton 5y ago
      RIF is really good, I miss it. I've used Pocket Casts on iOS and it's not as good as Overcast, but people on Android seem to like it. Maybe it's a bad port?
ehsankia 5y ago
I agree that at some point it can be a bit overwhelming, but I'd take "slightly steeper learning curve" over "literally missing a critical feature I rely on daily" any time.
lostmsu 5y ago
How can you live without Android's back button/gesture behavior?
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  I mostly develop for Android devices and use iOS. I have literally never missed not having a "always-back" button. Where would I want it that a way to go back isn't baked into the flow? I mean half the Android apps out there have broken backstack implementations anyways so pressing back on Android will do anything from send you back one screen to set your hair on fire and everything in between so...
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    As another cross platform mobile dev that mainly uses iOS, this is how I feel too. It’s much easier to mentally model things with intra-app and inter-app navigation being entirely separate. Navigating within apps is frustrating enough between apps that intentionally implement wonky custom stuff for no reason and cross platform apps that don’t obey conventions by nature, the last thing I want is those same apps mucking up otherwise consistent app switcher behavior.
  - lostmsu 5y ago
    The most common scenario I have is switching from RSS reader into web browser for the full article and back. This is also about 50% of what I do on the phone that's not scrolling web pages vertically.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      Isn't that just swiping left and right on the bottom of an iOS device? (Switches between your current app and last app for reference)
      - sincerely 5y ago
        I've been using iphones for a decade and had no idea I could do this...not sure if it's a me problem or an apple problem but discoverability of gesture based shortcuts seems like a difficult challenge

postalrat 5y ago

What are these good apps? I'd like to check some out.

easton 5y ago
I don't know if it's worth changing phones over, but Overcast is a really nice podcast player (smart speed works very, very well). Apollo is nice for reddit.
- account_b 5y ago
  AntennaPod and Slide for Reddit. And I raise by Newpipe and uBlock (in Firefox)!
- ehsankia 5y ago
  I think some of that might be what you're used to. There are plenty of quality podcast apps on Android, such as PocketCasts. Same for reddit app, there are dozens. Maybe not as flashy but I've been using rif for almost 10 years now and it has been very solid.
  - easton 5y ago
    RIF is really good, I miss it. I've used Pocket Casts on iOS and it's not as good as Overcast, but people on Android seem to like it. Maybe it's a bad port?

ehsankia 5y ago

I agree that at some point it can be a bit overwhelming, but I'd take "slightly steeper learning curve" over "literally missing a critical feature I rely on daily" any time.

lostmsu 5y ago

How can you live without Android's back button/gesture behavior?

BoorishBears 5y ago
I mostly develop for Android devices and use iOS. I have literally never missed not having a "always-back" button. Where would I want it that a way to go back isn't baked into the flow? I mean half the Android apps out there have broken backstack implementations anyways so pressing back on Android will do anything from send you back one screen to set your hair on fire and everything in between so...
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  As another cross platform mobile dev that mainly uses iOS, this is how I feel too. It’s much easier to mentally model things with intra-app and inter-app navigation being entirely separate. Navigating within apps is frustrating enough between apps that intentionally implement wonky custom stuff for no reason and cross platform apps that don’t obey conventions by nature, the last thing I want is those same apps mucking up otherwise consistent app switcher behavior.
- lostmsu 5y ago
  The most common scenario I have is switching from RSS reader into web browser for the full article and back. This is also about 50% of what I do on the phone that's not scrolling web pages vertically.
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    Isn't that just swiping left and right on the bottom of an iOS device? (Switches between your current app and last app for reference)
    - sincerely 5y ago
      I've been using iphones for a decade and had no idea I could do this...not sure if it's a me problem or an apple problem but discoverability of gesture based shortcuts seems like a difficult challenge