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add an indicator to indicate the admin changed what I (@ugwigr) posted. Materially changing the content your users post is wrong.
by ugwigr 5y ago
add an indicator to indicate the admin changed what I (@ugwigr) posted. Materially changing the content your users post is wrong.
- jacquesm 5y agoHe did just that.
- ugwigr 5y agoin the comment? how many people would read his comment versus the subject line? Also the fact that he can fundamentally change what a user posts and then choose whether or not to disclose it in comment section is a flaw.
- NikolaeVarius 5y agoHow dare we expect people to read
- ugwigr 5y agothink of the UI as a funnel - to expect the same number of readers for each comment as for the subject is stupidity
- dangrossman 5y agoThat's how it's always worked here on HN.
- ugwigr 5y agodoes not mean it is right
- tptacek 5y agoYou're right, it doesn't mean that. But independently of that point, what HN does here is right.
- jacquesm 5y agoAnd more than any other online forum would do, it's in fact an exercise in transparency, and super labor intensive to boot.
- ugwigr 5y ago"more than any other online forum would do" - still does not mean it is right "super labor intensive to boot" - it should be in the CMS code to show a flag if "edited".
- ugwigr 5y agoin your opinion it is right, in my opinion it is wrong.
- kjaftaedi 5y agoIt doesn't mean it's right, but on this site it is. Allowing people to editorialize headlines and pick biased sources skews the discussion. Since we want to limit multiple similar discussion threads but allow everyone to continue talking, this is a good compromise. Giving too much credit to a biased source or blogspam post goes too far in the direction of skewing the discussion IMHO. Also the link or headline might change multiple times. Best to just keep it simple.
- jacquesm 5y agoEntitlement is a flaw.
- ugwigr 5y agoyes it is, captain obvious. now what is the entitlement you allude to?
- jacquesm 5y agoThat you expect HN to work the way you want it to, instead of the way it already worked when you joined. You've been here 8 years, enough time to familiarize yourself with what's in the package. Besides that, a moderator going out of their way to mention that they have made an edit to your post, as well as specifically what edit they made is more than you could reasonably expect, and you already have that. Anything over and beyond that is pure entitlement. Moderator time is more precious than your time, if you feel that you've been wronged then you could have just said what you thought was wrong rather than to demand a fix to your liking. This is further amplified by the fact that you have a major stake in the property whose link you posted here. Your website, your rules, HN -> HN's rules.
- ugwigr 5y ago- "you expect"- wrong! - at no point did i express my "expectation". I was voicing my opinion on how I think the UX should work for this use case - "instead of the way it already worked when you joined." Just because it worked this way does not mean it is right. - "HN -> HN's rules." Yes, Captain Obvious. this does not mean their rules make sense and certainly does not mean a user voicing an opinion on how the rules should be changed is entitled.
- tptacek 5y agoThis "captain obvious" stuff isn't helping you; it's just going to get everything you have to say flagged. You sound upset. I don't think I understand why --- having links replaced is totally standard HN practice, happens all the time, and works to the overall benefit of the community. But I don't have to understand why you're upset for you to feel that way. Rather, I'd just say, step away from HN for a bit until you can write with a clearer head.
- Oddskar 5y agoHow astute of you to observe that HN does not always hold your hand.
- ugwigr 5y agowhy would i want HN to hold my hand?
- batch12 5y agoI wholeheartedly disagreed until I saw your point (I think). The post still has your name beside it and you disagree with someone changing your words. While I don't find it a big deal with this, I kinda agree in spirit. Maybe the poster name should be changed too. However, folks would then be upset about not getting their sweet, sweet karma.