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a/s/l? (kidding, but really, how old are you, how long have you been doing it, and how long before you realize you only go around once and exchanging 45 years o

a/s/l? (kidding, but really, how old are you, how long have you been doing it, and how long before you realize you only go around once and exchanging 45 years of your life to the grind is something you'll regret?)

ModernMech 5y ago
> a/s/l Off topic story: In the early days of the internet I had a friend named Sal, who didn't understand what asl meant. He was very confused how people in chat rooms knew his name as soon as he got there, but weren't spelling it correctly.
- sillysaurusx 5y ago
  That's really funny. I had a similar experience recently, where someone on Twitter DM'ed me, and I said "Howdy!" and they said "I'm doing well, how are you?" After probing in a diplomatic way, it turned out that they interpreted "Howdy" as "How are you doing today?" which was fascinating to me, because it makes perfect sense. I never would've made the connection.
  - andrewpbrett 5y ago
    This may be apocryphal but I've heard that "howdy" is essentially a contraction of "how do you do" Edit: Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdy
    - TeMPOraL 5y ago
      I've always assumed that "howdy" was a word from the vernacular of a small regional community in some random US location, that got promoted to mainstream English - individual words from dialects sometimes get picked up and adopted into "canonical" language.
sillysaurusx 5y ago
I'm 33. I've been doing this for a total of a few weeks now. The way it came about was quite accidental: I was working for a B2B finance startup, and quite happy with it -- it's a laid back, chill job. The nice thing about finance is that no one's heart is in finance. Mostly that manifests itself as finance companies becoming obsessed with money and taking advantage of their coworkers. This company took a different approach -- everyone is focused on work/life balance above all else. My heart happens to be in ML. So when an ML opportunity came along, I went for it. Things worked out. They offered a full time salary position for equivalent to what I was already making. I told them "I understand that you're not able to afford market rate for ML engineers -- let me know if that changes! In the meantime, why not do a contract for that rate and see how it goes?" They protested in the usual way, but the problem was, they needed me. Both companies need me, and I'm effective at both. I make roughly three times the average SV startup salary. I don't get sick days, which is the only part that sucks. But -- regret? You overestimate how much work this actually is. The best part is the work itself. I get to design some cool-ass banking infrastructure while also doing some cool-ass ML work. And the whole reason I'm doing all of this is so that my wife and I can have a baby, because IVF in America is $40k. (I realized one day that if I worked as hard as I could -- or in my case, "at all" -- it wouldn't take that long to save up $40k.) I would say it's a worse deal to gamble your life on startup equity in exchange for below market rate. The fact is, if you're someone who can get a job at FAANG in terms of skill level, you're underpaid at a startup, in exchange for the small chance of getting rich later on. I'd rather "sell my equity now" and take full market rate, as it were. But I don't want to work at FAANG, because FAANG comes with a lot of baggage that doesn't exist at startups -- which is the whole reason people take startup jobs.
- ethanfinni 5y ago
  > my wife and I can have a baby, because IVF in America is $40k. Wait to see the cost of a college education...;(
- Damogran6 5y ago
  I have been in Incident Response, responding to people that were much more numberous than I, and tended to like to attack while I was asleep…because why not, it’s the middle of their day, and they can also hack the stupid Americans while they eat their Thanksgiving Turkey, Christmas Ham and Easter…Eggs. It’s good to burn the candle at both ends and the middle once or twice, both to prove you can, and to determine why you shouldn’t longterm. The money was good, I out earned my coworkers in Bonus compendation, but the color had literally drained out of my life. I had no hobbies, no plans, I just went to work, came home, and once or twice a month, lost a weekend to the latest DDOS. ETA: DO NOT LOSE YOUR CHILDREN’S YOUTH to work. Just don’t.

ModernMech 5y ago

> a/s/l Off topic story: In the early days of the internet I had a friend named Sal, who didn't understand what asl meant. He was very confused how people in chat rooms knew his name as soon as he got there, but weren't spelling it correctly.

sillysaurusx 5y ago
That's really funny. I had a similar experience recently, where someone on Twitter DM'ed me, and I said "Howdy!" and they said "I'm doing well, how are you?" After probing in a diplomatic way, it turned out that they interpreted "Howdy" as "How are you doing today?" which was fascinating to me, because it makes perfect sense. I never would've made the connection.
- andrewpbrett 5y ago
  This may be apocryphal but I've heard that "howdy" is essentially a contraction of "how do you do" Edit: Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdy
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    I've always assumed that "howdy" was a word from the vernacular of a small regional community in some random US location, that got promoted to mainstream English - individual words from dialects sometimes get picked up and adopted into "canonical" language.

sillysaurusx 5y ago

I'm 33. I've been doing this for a total of a few weeks now. The way it came about was quite accidental: I was working for a B2B finance startup, and quite happy with it -- it's a laid back, chill job. The nice thing about finance is that no one's heart is in finance. Mostly that manifests itself as finance companies becoming obsessed with money and taking advantage of their coworkers. This company took a different approach -- everyone is focused on work/life balance above all else. My heart happens to be in ML. So when an ML opportunity came along, I went for it. Things worked out. They offered a full time salary position for equivalent to what I was already making. I told them "I understand that you're not able to afford market rate for ML engineers -- let me know if that changes! In the meantime, why not do a contract for that rate and see how it goes?" They protested in the usual way, but the problem was, they needed me. Both companies need me, and I'm effective at both. I make roughly three times the average SV startup salary. I don't get sick days, which is the only part that sucks. But -- regret? You overestimate how much work this actually is. The best part is the work itself. I get to design some cool-ass banking infrastructure while also doing some cool-ass ML work. And the whole reason I'm doing all of this is so that my wife and I can have a baby, because IVF in America is $40k. (I realized one day that if I worked as hard as I could -- or in my case, "at all" -- it wouldn't take that long to save up $40k.) I would say it's a worse deal to gamble your life on startup equity in exchange for below market rate. The fact is, if you're someone who can get a job at FAANG in terms of skill level, you're underpaid at a startup, in exchange for the small chance of getting rich later on. I'd rather "sell my equity now" and take full market rate, as it were. But I don't want to work at FAANG, because FAANG comes with a lot of baggage that doesn't exist at startups -- which is the whole reason people take startup jobs.

ethanfinni 5y ago
> my wife and I can have a baby, because IVF in America is $40k. Wait to see the cost of a college education...;(
Damogran6 5y ago
I have been in Incident Response, responding to people that were much more numberous than I, and tended to like to attack while I was asleep…because why not, it’s the middle of their day, and they can also hack the stupid Americans while they eat their Thanksgiving Turkey, Christmas Ham and Easter…Eggs. It’s good to burn the candle at both ends and the middle once or twice, both to prove you can, and to determine why you shouldn’t longterm. The money was good, I out earned my coworkers in Bonus compendation, but the color had literally drained out of my life. I had no hobbies, no plans, I just went to work, came home, and once or twice a month, lost a weekend to the latest DDOS. ETA: DO NOT LOSE YOUR CHILDREN’S YOUTH to work. Just don’t.