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I don't disagree that those are difficult to implement. My claim is that Apple has wiped away any competition for any of those things by locking everyone else o

I don't disagree that those are difficult to implement. My claim is that Apple has wiped away any competition for any of those things by locking everyone else out of their platform and now claim that they're doing you a favor by not allowing anyone else to compete with them. Maybe no one else could do it at the margin Apple is doing it, maybe they could. We'll never know because of Apple's anti-competitive practices. They're just unwilling to participate in Capitalism as far as their platform is concerned by pre-emptively blocking off any competition. They want a dictatorship and they want you to pretend it's out of their benevolence.

Someone 5y ago
> as far as their platform is concerned I thought that capitalism meant that, if it’s their platform they set the rules, and should be allowed to decide what gets sold there and under what conditions. If you want to sell anything in a physical shop or in Disney World, you have to deal with the conditions of the shop owner, too. It wouldn’t even surprise me if Disney took a cut on each ice cream sold in their theme parks (sellers might even prefer that over a fixed price contract as it moves part of the bad weather risk out of their hands) The only reason to deviate from that here may be the sheer size of Apple’s platform. That may make them so powerful that their free reign over their store must be restricted (a similar thing has happened in some countries with big supermarket chains versus producers of goods. If Walmart were to decide to stop selling brand X as a negotiation tactic to get better conditions, a court could forbid that)
- croon 5y ago
  You got there by the conclusion. Imagine that half of the US was Disney World, wherein everything is dictated by Disney because they managed to get there under capitalism. Capitalism is a great tool and all, but as all other tools, it doesn't solve every problem. In this scenario, it has stopped working inside Disney Nation/World.
evilduck 5y ago
How can you ignore Android, the dominant platform, existing and providing these exact things for you? Why hasn't this magic-capitalism argument won or at least out-performed already?

Someone 5y ago

> as far as their platform is concerned I thought that capitalism meant that, if it’s their platform they set the rules, and should be allowed to decide what gets sold there and under what conditions. If you want to sell anything in a physical shop or in Disney World, you have to deal with the conditions of the shop owner, too. It wouldn’t even surprise me if Disney took a cut on each ice cream sold in their theme parks (sellers might even prefer that over a fixed price contract as it moves part of the bad weather risk out of their hands) The only reason to deviate from that here may be the sheer size of Apple’s platform. That may make them so powerful that their free reign over their store must be restricted (a similar thing has happened in some countries with big supermarket chains versus producers of goods. If Walmart were to decide to stop selling brand X as a negotiation tactic to get better conditions, a court could forbid that)

croon 5y ago
You got there by the conclusion. Imagine that half of the US was Disney World, wherein everything is dictated by Disney because they managed to get there under capitalism. Capitalism is a great tool and all, but as all other tools, it doesn't solve every problem. In this scenario, it has stopped working inside Disney Nation/World.

evilduck 5y ago

How can you ignore Android, the dominant platform, existing and providing these exact things for you? Why hasn't this magic-capitalism argument won or at least out-performed already?