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> Minimum wage is always expressed per hour - not per month. That's a weirdly american thing to say. In many countries, people typically measure their wages pe
by golergka 5y ago
> Minimum wage is always expressed per hour - not per month.
That's a weirdly american thing to say. In many countries, people typically measure their wages per month and have no idea how much do they earn per hour or per year.
- kfprt 5y agoArguably per hour is a better metric because it accounts for part time workers.
- maltalex 5y agoActually, in the UK the minimum wage seems to be defined on a per-hour basis too: https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
- SeanLuke 5y agoTerence Eden is British.
- edent 5y ago[CITATION NEEDED] But, yes, I am. And in the UK the minimum wage is set at a per-hour basis.
- tokai 5y agoCould you stop using HN to promote your blog?
- robjan 5y agoIf you don't like it, just don't upvote or engage with the thread. That's how moderation works on HN.
- vntok 5y agoAsking him politely is more efficient than merely downvoting. That way, he can be certain that some people (at least two people, counting me) are displeased with his spamming the community.
- jessaustin 5y agoThe comment isn't moderation. It's a signal to other readers that 80% of the links submitted by this user [0] are for this user's own blog. Actually 80% is just for the first page of links. The second page is 90%! HN benefits from variety. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=edent https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=edent
- Planktonne 5y agoIt's not a weirdly American thing; as the article says, the standard is to express minimum wage as an hourly figure [1]. People don't necessarily refer to their own wage as an hourly figure, but that's an entirely separate thing to how minimum wage is normally discussed. I'd suggest, as well, that people who don't think of their wage in hourly terms are less likely to be on or close to minimum wage. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage
- f311a 5y agoI don't think there is a standard. Even your link mentions that Russian and China use the monthly amount.
- Planktonne 5y agoI think the fact that those two countries are called out as an example suggests that monthly is not the norm; difference exists, but common discussion/comparisons tend to use hourly (as shown in the top table), and the majority (?) of countries do as well. At the very, very least, it's not a uniquely American thing.
- a_humean 5y agoIn the UK its per hour and is different for different age cohorts (25+ > 21-24 > 18-20 > 16-17 > 0-16), and the author from the UK. Maybe its a bit of a parochial American thing to assume that everyone is an American being overly parochial.
- dgb23 5y agoIn CH it depends on the type of work. If you're contracting/freelancing etc. You know or talk about your per hour or maybe per month salary. But with long-term employment you typically know or talk about the per year and maybe per month salary. Then there are a _lot_ of trades that have a GAV (negotiated by unions), where you'll have a wage table per month and clauses such as being entitled to a 13th salary per year among other things. The tables typically take education (including advanced training) levels, roles and experience into account.
- denton-scratch 5y ago> In many countries, people typically measure their wages per month In the UK, when you are paid monthly, that's referred to as "salary". Wages are paid weekly. Furthermore the "minimum wage" is set by the government, who express it as pounds-per-week. If you're on the minimum wage, and you are paid monthly, the minimum wage is still expressed in terms of weekly pay. [Edit] I'm wrong - the government website apparently expresses it in hourly terms (thanks, @a_humean). But it's never expressed as monthly pay, nor in Euros.
- zz865 5y agoAgreed most my Eastern European family talk about after tax amount/month.
- ldiracdelta 5y agoThat's the real number. A useful number for actually thinking about how to allocate your resources.
- phkahler 5y agoIn fact, if you ask google "minimum wage in the US" it give the answer in dollars per hour. Perhaps it's user error when the author asks google a question that isn't actually relevant to them.
- Planktonne 5y agoIt's not 'user error' for a user to ask an unanticipated question; that's poor design.
- phkahler 5y agoI didn't say "unanticipated" I said not relevant to them. The "problem" here is that Google returned the result in the form most relevant given the question, not the user. If you ask what the price of break is in the UK you shouldn't expect the answer to be in US dollars either. Maybe someone hadn't really thought about currency when they asked but that doesn't make the answer wrong at all.
- Planktonne 5y agoGoogle absolutely hasn't returned the answer in the most relevant form. Minimum wage in the UK is defined as an hourly figure, and the UK doesn't use the Euro. That's the key point of the article.