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Not exactly. Having integrity means being whole, united, and indivisible. That certainly can involve telling the truth, but it's much broader than that. Someone

Not exactly. Having integrity means being whole, united, and indivisible. That certainly can involve telling the truth, but it's much broader than that. Someone who leads a double life, even if they don't make any commitments about their private behavior and even if they don't lie about it, lacks integrity. Integrity means the opposite of being two-faced. In this case, OP's behavior lacked integrity, even though it was likely honest. Although he was at the Yang meeting as a representative of LinkExchange, he advocated in favor of Viaweb. The forcefulness with which he argued ("your guys are wrong") definitely crossed the line into advocacy, not just an off-hand honest opinion. This set up a conflict within himself (his feelings toward Viaweb vs. his own interests and duties to his partners) as well as a conflict within the LinkExchange team. https://insighttimer.com/consciousleadershipgroup/guided-meditations/creating-wholeness-through-integrity https://insighttimer.com/consciousleadershipgroup/guided-med... https://www.commonsensemedia.org/character-strengths-and-life-skills/what-is-integrity https://www.commonsensemedia.org/character-strengths-and-lif... "the standards of integrity involves regarding internal consistency as a virtue, and suggests that parties holding within themselves apparently conflicting values should account for the discrepancy or alter their beliefs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity

coldtea 5y ago
>Not exactly. Having integrity means being whole, united, and indivisible. Not just any kind of whole. Somebody "whole, united, and indivisible" devoted to his own interests for example, doesn't have integrity (even if he's open about it and e.g. is equally and wholy bad to everybody). Let's stick to the dictionary: "1. the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles." The "whole, united, etc" thing is "integrity" in objects (e.g. as in "structural integrity". Not integrity as the moral quality in people. >Consciously or unconsciously, he was trying to serve three masters: his current company, Yahoo!, and PG's company. That kind of conflict of interest is inconsistent with integrity. It's the opposite. That kind of conflict of interest is what you want to test someone's integrity. Someone more strategic or someone which places tactic over integrity would have stayed silent (and neither lose nor verify their integrity). Someone without integrity would have lied against PG's company to promote their own.
- torstenvl 5y ago
  Someone devoted to his own interests lacks charity, but not integrity. And yes, being whole and undivided is also in reference to the moral quality, not just structural integrity.
  - coldtea 5y ago
    >Someone devoted to his own interests lacks charity, but not integrity. Well, I wasn't talking about some hermit fully devoted to his own self without impact on others. I was talking about someone pursing his own interests ahead of everything else - who would e.g. lie if it benefits him, steel, backstab, and so on. This man might be an "whole and undivided" jerk, but he lacks integrity - that is, an actual good moral character. So, "whole and undivided" is not what people mean when they say "this person has integrity". They mean that he is a "man of his word", has honor, is not two-faced, and so on.
    - torstenvl 5y ago
      I am not going to argue with you. There is a lengthy discussion of the breadth of the word in the Wikipedia article. It does not mean what you think it means. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity There's a saying: you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. I can provide you the resources to show you the meaning of the word, but I'm not going to waste my time in any further back-and-forth. Have a good day.

coldtea 5y ago

>Not exactly. Having integrity means being whole, united, and indivisible. Not just any kind of whole. Somebody "whole, united, and indivisible" devoted to his own interests for example, doesn't have integrity (even if he's open about it and e.g. is equally and wholy bad to everybody). Let's stick to the dictionary: "1. the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles." The "whole, united, etc" thing is "integrity" in objects (e.g. as in "structural integrity". Not integrity as the moral quality in people. >Consciously or unconsciously, he was trying to serve three masters: his current company, Yahoo!, and PG's company. That kind of conflict of interest is inconsistent with integrity. It's the opposite. That kind of conflict of interest is what you want to test someone's integrity. Someone more strategic or someone which places tactic over integrity would have stayed silent (and neither lose nor verify their integrity). Someone without integrity would have lied against PG's company to promote their own.

torstenvl 5y ago
Someone devoted to his own interests lacks charity, but not integrity. And yes, being whole and undivided is also in reference to the moral quality, not just structural integrity.
- coldtea 5y ago
  >Someone devoted to his own interests lacks charity, but not integrity. Well, I wasn't talking about some hermit fully devoted to his own self without impact on others. I was talking about someone pursing his own interests ahead of everything else - who would e.g. lie if it benefits him, steel, backstab, and so on. This man might be an "whole and undivided" jerk, but he lacks integrity - that is, an actual good moral character. So, "whole and undivided" is not what people mean when they say "this person has integrity". They mean that he is a "man of his word", has honor, is not two-faced, and so on.
  - torstenvl 5y ago
    I am not going to argue with you. There is a lengthy discussion of the breadth of the word in the Wikipedia article. It does not mean what you think it means. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrity There's a saying: you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. I can provide you the resources to show you the meaning of the word, but I'm not going to waste my time in any further back-and-forth. Have a good day.