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Yes. And now lots of feminist bookstores removed the book.
by meerita 5y ago
Yes. And now lots of feminist bookstores removed the book.
- upofadown 5y agoWikipedia> Mola is known for "ultra-violent Spanish crime thrillers" featuring police inspector Elena Blanco, ... That doesn't sound like feminist themes...
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoI read about Mujeres y Compañía (a bookstore which removed the book), and one of the owners said: > It is not news that a specialized bookstore withdraws from its fund what does not correspond with its specialization. Does this not put them in an ideologically difficult position? Is it not deemed "transphobic" these days to take a position on whether or not someone is really a woman?
- dusted 5y agoSo, there's these people who claim to be multiple persons, sometimes with different genders.. I think the political correctness culture is now ripe for the next step: multiple people of different genders identifying as one single human person with one single gender.
- akomtu 5y agoTrying to catch them in a logical trap? For them, logic is a facade: once you find a hole in it, they'll patch it with something and move on.
- chuckee 5y agoI don't think any of the (real) authors are trans, so it's not ideologically difficult from that perspective. On the other hand, feminism is (nominally) a movement to establish equality of the sexes, and about fighting against gender stereotypes. Men convincingly writing from a female point of view, and publicly presented as women, would seem to me to do exactly that. Fight against writing style/subject stereotypes, and demonstrate how gender is not essential in the act of writing - subverting gender essentialism. If feminist were true to their professed convictions, they should be applauding this book.
- techdragon 5y agoDefinitely not an expert, but I like learning so anyone with a more nuanced/detailed take please correct/elaborate… If this could be considered “feminist” or not, depends a lot on which “wave” of feminism is setting the conversational agenda. Feminist philosophy has at points in the past been more about “males are bad” than it is today.
- mcphage 5y ago> Does this not put them in an ideologically difficult position? Is it not deemed "transphobic" these days to take a position on whether or not someone is really a woman? Not at all. None of the authors claim to be women, all claim to be men. I’m really not sure why you think there would be a problem.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoIt’s problematic in the same way that being a TERF is problematic. Are you supporting women by protecting women from the encroachment of their space by other women who are apparently not women? Or are you oppressing women by acting as the arbiter of who is really a woman? In this case specifically, three men have identified as a woman in publishing a book, in exactly the same way that women historically have identified as men to circumvent sexism. As far as the modern ideological narrative goes, you are committing transphobic violence by denying the existence of Mola.
- mcphage 5y ago> As far as the modern ideological narrative goes, you are committing transphobic violence by denying the existence of Mola. The simple fact is, you are wrong. The only people who claim that this is "transphobic violence" are people who reject the notion of transgender individuals. You're pretending right wing talking points are actually true. Nothing in this situation has anything to do with transgenderism.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y agoWhat would it take for me to convince you that it is actually you who is wrong? Or are your ideological heels dug too far in? How many opinion pieces by trans people would it take to convince you? Who’s credentials matter? Would you accept anything published in that infamously right-wing journal called The Guardian? Not holding my breath.
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- meerita 5y agoI don't understand the downvoting, I am just stating what is happening right now on Spain with this book. I am not saying it is good or bad.
- zimpenfish 5y agoDo you have a source for "lots"? I can only find the one - Mujeres & Compañía - who posted a short clip to their Twitter and TikTok accounts showing them packing up some (doesn't look like all!) of their copies into a box for sending back.
- killtimeatwork 5y agoThere are "feminist bookstores"? And lots of them? How do they stay afloat? - being a regular bookstore is hard enough.
- xiphias2 5y agoIt's much easier to have a great selection of feminist books than a great selection of books...good luck competing with the internet in the 2nd category. There was a documentary about specialist stores popping up in Berlin, and generalist stores dying.
- s5ma6n 5y agoI would confirm this as a resident of the aforementioned city. The specialist (or even many generalist) bookstores usually follow a certain ideology and sell books heavily aligned with those views. Unfortunately, this slowly converts those stores to echo chambers as the objectiveness of the stores slowly fade away.
- blip54321 5y agoOnly sometimes I used to live near an excellent technical book store which carried things like O'Reilly books. It went under as the Internet progressed. Many countries have such things like math book stores, or stores specializing in philosophy and similar humanities. Specialized book stores have a long, reputable history, and the echo chamber style specialization is a pretty recent phenomenon. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
- llampx 5y agoI wonder how the revenue in the book industry is split between men and women.
- killtimeatwork 5y agoI suspect that neither majority of men nor women are interested in feminist literature per se. Unless "feminist" mean "written by women" and not "in the spirit of feminist movement".