And Ben Shapiro's podcast is currently the 7th most downloaded podcast in the US[1]. That also qualifies as pretty mainstream. [1] https://www.podcastinsights.

And Ben Shapiro's podcast is currently the 7th most downloaded podcast in the US[1]. That also qualifies as pretty mainstream. [1] https://www.podcastinsights.com/top-us-podcasts/ https://www.podcastinsights.com/top-us-podcasts/