I have never seen a C++ programmer complain about the for loop and describe a better for loop, you rarely see java programmers talking about how much better a d

I have never seen a C++ programmer complain about the for loop and describe a better for loop, you rarely see java programmers talking about how much better a different object system would be. Amen to that! Except... I'm a C & C++ developer who sometimes complains about for-loops, and often pines for dynamic dispatch. And any C developer who has written or used a FOR_* macro has complained about for-loops, whether she knows it or not. In CL, I prefer iterate.