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Video game consoles have been using integrated graphics for at least 15 years now, since Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

gerardvivancos 5y ago
If you mean including PS3 and X360, these two consoles had discrete GPUs. The move to AMD APUs was on the Xbox One and PS4 generation
terafo 5y ago
You are mistaken. On both PS3 and Xbox 360 CPU and GPU is on different chips and made by different vendors(CPU made by IBM and GPU by Nvidia in case of PS3 and CPU by IBM and GPU by ATI for Xbox 360). Nonetheless in PS4/XOne generation they both use single die with unified memory for everything and their GPU could be called integrated.
- gsnedders 5y ago
  For the 360, from 2010 production (when they introduced the 45nm shrink), the CPU and GPU was merged into a single chip.
  - cududa 5y ago
    Yup. Prior they were absolutely different dies just on the same package
  - Tsiklon 5y ago
    When they did that they had to deliberately hamstring the SOC in order to ensure it didn’t outperform the earlier models. From a consistency of experience perspective I understand why, but it makes me somewhat sad that the system never truly got the performance uplift that would have come from such a move. That said there were significant efficiency gains from that if I recall.
mod 5y ago
Yeah, and vendors like Bungie are forced to cap their framerates at 30fps (Destiny 2).
- hunterb123 5y ago
  They capped PC as well.
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    Destiny 2 is capped on PC? The cutscenes are but the actual game is not
    - mmis1000 5y ago
      It used to have a bug that randomly cap the fps at 30. Only toggle vsync on and off again can fix it. It have no idea whether that has been fixed.
  - mod 5y ago
    If they did, it definitely wasn't at 30. I was getting 90+ on my budget rig. But no, I don't think they did.
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monocasa 5y ago
Longer since integrated graphics used to mean integrated onto the north bridge and it's main memory controller. nForce integrated chipsets with GPUs in fact started from the machinations of the original Xbox switching to Intel from AMD at the last second.
ip26 5y ago
In that case, it's more like discrete graphics with integrated CPU :)

If you mean including PS3 and X360, these two consoles had discrete GPUs. The move to AMD APUs was on the Xbox One and PS4 generation

terafo 5y ago

You are mistaken. On both PS3 and Xbox 360 CPU and GPU is on different chips and made by different vendors(CPU made by IBM and GPU by Nvidia in case of PS3 and CPU by IBM and GPU by ATI for Xbox 360). Nonetheless in PS4/XOne generation they both use single die with unified memory for everything and their GPU could be called integrated.

gsnedders 5y ago
For the 360, from 2010 production (when they introduced the 45nm shrink), the CPU and GPU was merged into a single chip.
- cududa 5y ago
  Yup. Prior they were absolutely different dies just on the same package
- Tsiklon 5y ago
  When they did that they had to deliberately hamstring the SOC in order to ensure it didn’t outperform the earlier models. From a consistency of experience perspective I understand why, but it makes me somewhat sad that the system never truly got the performance uplift that would have come from such a move. That said there were significant efficiency gains from that if I recall.

mod 5y ago

Yeah, and vendors like Bungie are forced to cap their framerates at 30fps (Destiny 2).

hunterb123 5y ago
They capped PC as well.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Destiny 2 is capped on PC? The cutscenes are but the actual game is not
  - mmis1000 5y ago
    It used to have a bug that randomly cap the fps at 30. Only toggle vsync on and off again can fix it. It have no idea whether that has been fixed.
- mod 5y ago
  If they did, it definitely wasn't at 30. I was getting 90+ on my budget rig. But no, I don't think they did.

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monocasa 5y ago

Longer since integrated graphics used to mean integrated onto the north bridge and it's main memory controller. nForce integrated chipsets with GPUs in fact started from the machinations of the original Xbox switching to Intel from AMD at the last second.

ip26 5y ago

In that case, it's more like discrete graphics with integrated CPU :)