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I am in the market for a new laptop and bit skeptic for M1 Chips. Could anyone please tell me how is this not a "premium high performance Chromebook" ? Why sh

I am in the market for a new laptop and bit skeptic for M1 Chips. Could anyone please tell me how is this not a "premium high performance Chromebook" ? Why should I buy this and not Dell XPS machine if I will be using it for web development/Android Development/C#/DevOps. Might soon mess with machine learning

sjroot 5y ago
I am a very satisfied Apple customer, but will gladly tell you that a Windows machine would make more sense for the use cases you’ve described.
- raydev 5y ago
  C# is the only odd item there. Entire companies are doing everything else in that list using exclusively MacBook Pros.
  - skohan 5y ago
    Isn't C# quite available on mac?
    - other_herbert 5y ago
      Yes and dotnet 6 (release date scheduled for 11/9, but is available now as rc2) works natively on the m1... REALLY quickly I might add :)... I go between vs.code and JetBrains Rider (rider now has an EAP that runs natively on the m1)... I am going to upgrade just because I didn't get enough ram the first time around :)
- bengale 5y ago
  Other than the ML work maybe. The Apple chips claim to be very performant with ML workloads.
raydev 5y ago
Better battery life while performing faster than any Intel/AMD chip at equivalent power usage. Portability is the reason for the existence of laptops.
azeirah 5y ago
For web dev it works very well, android development no clue, c# is primarily a windows-oriented development environment so probably not so great. For devops, well.. Mac is a linux-esque environment, it'll be fine? I have the m1 air and the big advantages are the absurd battery life and the extremely consistent very high performance. It's always cold, it's always charged, it's always fast. I believe you can get both faster cpu and gpu performance on a laptop, but it costs a lot in battery life and heat which has a bigger impact on usability than I believed before getting this one. Might want to add, this is my first ever apple laptop. I've always used Lenovo laptops, ran mostly windows/linux dual boots on my laptops and desktops over the years.
- avisser 5y ago
  > c# is primarily a windows-oriented development environment so probably not so great. I'm not confident that is still true today. .net core is multi-platform all-the-way and is the future.
Weryj 5y ago
That's a debate between OSX and alternatives, the M1 has little to do with that. Except maybe the Rosetta for unsupported x86, but I doubt that'll cause you any issues. Edit: C# support is there on OSX, Rider has Apple Silicon builds and .net core is cross platform now. ML is probably a let down and you'll be stuck to CPU sized workloads, that being said the M1 does pretty well compared to other x86 CPU
- lavp 5y ago
  Why is ML a let down?

sjroot 5y ago

I am a very satisfied Apple customer, but will gladly tell you that a Windows machine would make more sense for the use cases you’ve described.

raydev 5y ago
C# is the only odd item there. Entire companies are doing everything else in that list using exclusively MacBook Pros.
- skohan 5y ago
  Isn't C# quite available on mac?
  - other_herbert 5y ago
    Yes and dotnet 6 (release date scheduled for 11/9, but is available now as rc2) works natively on the m1... REALLY quickly I might add :)... I go between vs.code and JetBrains Rider (rider now has an EAP that runs natively on the m1)... I am going to upgrade just because I didn't get enough ram the first time around :)
bengale 5y ago
Other than the ML work maybe. The Apple chips claim to be very performant with ML workloads.

raydev 5y ago

Better battery life while performing faster than any Intel/AMD chip at equivalent power usage. Portability is the reason for the existence of laptops.

azeirah 5y ago

For web dev it works very well, android development no clue, c# is primarily a windows-oriented development environment so probably not so great. For devops, well.. Mac is a linux-esque environment, it'll be fine? I have the m1 air and the big advantages are the absurd battery life and the extremely consistent very high performance. It's always cold, it's always charged, it's always fast. I believe you can get both faster cpu and gpu performance on a laptop, but it costs a lot in battery life and heat which has a bigger impact on usability than I believed before getting this one. Might want to add, this is my first ever apple laptop. I've always used Lenovo laptops, ran mostly windows/linux dual boots on my laptops and desktops over the years.

avisser 5y ago
> c# is primarily a windows-oriented development environment so probably not so great. I'm not confident that is still true today. .net core is multi-platform all-the-way and is the future.

Weryj 5y ago

That's a debate between OSX and alternatives, the M1 has little to do with that. Except maybe the Rosetta for unsupported x86, but I doubt that'll cause you any issues. Edit: C# support is there on OSX, Rider has Apple Silicon builds and .net core is cross platform now. ML is probably a let down and you'll be stuck to CPU sized workloads, that being said the M1 does pretty well compared to other x86 CPU

lavp 5y ago
Why is ML a let down?