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Hah, go back and watch Steve Jobs making fun of computing devices that use a stylus. He agreed with you on the losing things angle. > Who wants a stylus? You h

by cronix 5y ago

Hah, go back and watch Steve Jobs making fun of computing devices that use a stylus. He agreed with you on the losing things angle. > Who wants a stylus? You have to get them and put them away and lose them. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELZK-Pow6fs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELZK-Pow6fs > Handwriting is probably the slowest input method ever invented. ... We reimagined it and what we're doing is completely different than what they (Microsoft) did. ... And what we said at the very beginning is if you need a stylus, you've failed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xPt8txgGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2xPt8txgGs Apple now uses styluses on their iPad Pro's.

mcculley 5y ago
I think Jobs had a point about designs that require a stylus. There were many portable computers before the iPhone that required a stylus. iOS was designed with fingers in mind and then added a stylus for some kinds of work. This is similar to how the original Macintosh had no arrow keys and forced developers to design for the mouse. Later designs then added arrow keys.
diebeforei485 5y ago
This was for devices that only worked with a stylus, so if you lost the stylus you couldn't use most features of the device anymore. Modern styluses like the Surface Tablet Pen or Apple Pencil are for drawing and note-taking, in addition to still being able to use fingers on the touchscreen.
- FireBeyond 5y ago
  This is revisionist history. In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus". He says "who wants a stylus? Yuck!" and "if you see a stylus, someone did something wrong". This spin into "well _obviously_ Steve meant X" is purely personality worship, not borne of his words.
  - diebeforei485 5y ago
    > In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus". Back in 2007, if something came with a stylus, it was overwhelmingly the case that the stylus was required.
pdmccormick 5y ago
Steve Jobs passed away 3666 days ago.

by cronix 5y ago

mcculley 5y ago

I think Jobs had a point about designs that require a stylus. There were many portable computers before the iPhone that required a stylus. iOS was designed with fingers in mind and then added a stylus for some kinds of work. This is similar to how the original Macintosh had no arrow keys and forced developers to design for the mouse. Later designs then added arrow keys.

diebeforei485 5y ago

This was for devices that only worked with a stylus, so if you lost the stylus you couldn't use most features of the device anymore. Modern styluses like the Surface Tablet Pen or Apple Pencil are for drawing and note-taking, in addition to still being able to use fingers on the touchscreen.

FireBeyond 5y ago
This is revisionist history. In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus". He says "who wants a stylus? Yuck!" and "if you see a stylus, someone did something wrong". This spin into "well _obviously_ Steve meant X" is purely personality worship, not borne of his words.
- diebeforei485 5y ago
  > In the keynote, he never mentions "devices that require a stylus". Back in 2007, if something came with a stylus, it was overwhelmingly the case that the stylus was required.

pdmccormick 5y ago

Steve Jobs passed away 3666 days ago.