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Agreed. I'm a fan of function over form, but Apple standardizing on a single port pushed a lot of accessories and other manufacturers towards USB-C. I use my (U

Agreed. I'm a fan of function over form, but Apple standardizing on a single port pushed a lot of accessories and other manufacturers towards USB-C. I use my (USB-C) mac charger for my phone all the time, simply because it's there and the cable is longer. I didn't really find Magsafe that useful anyway, as I'm pretty much always hooked up to a monitor via USB-C (which charges as well). I guess it's nice for those that miss it, but we were starting to finally get to a world with a one-size-fits-all cable. Remember back in the day when old-style cell phones/laptops all had proprietary chargers? But it seems the momentum for USB-C is there, so hopefully consolidation continues. Anyway, the EU and maybe others seem to be moving towards legislation to consolidate I/O types anyway. I'm guessing the HDMI is partially due to bandwidth limitations of USB-C, though I forget the specifics.

Yaina 5y ago
I would need to look it up and and of course it depends on the version, but afaik HDMI usually lags behind DisplayPort in terms of bandwidth and features. The SD-Card slot I can understand; for Magsafe I feels the same as you that I didn't really care for it, but HDMI... they might as well could have put a VGA port on there haha
- ansgri 5y ago
  I guess it’s for TVs and conference room projectors, these never support the DP, and thus it’s very much a real ‘pro’ feature for office work. So, SD for pro photo/video (and they are very right about full-size SDs here), HDMI for pro office, USB3 for everything else, seems legit.
plandis 5y ago
> I didn't really find Magsafe that useful anyway, as I'm pretty much always hooked up to a monitor via USB-C (which charges as well). I’m the complete opposite. I have to buy USB-C cables solely for MacBook Pro since nothing else I have uses it. I have plenty of HDMI and DP cables but literally only use USB-C on my laptop because I was forced to. Reverting back is a welcome change. USB-C only works as the only standard if you’re only buying relatively new tech products otherwise its the XKCD meme about an 11th standard. My tv doesn’t have usbc, my monitors don’t have usbc, my headphones and microphone still use a jack, my phone is no usbc, etc…
- adam_arthur 5y ago
  Yeah, but mac standardization was pushing all of those devices towards USB-C. I'm sure we'll get there eventually anyway, but it's a nice push towards standardization. It does create more friction in the short term though. I don't see any reason we shouldn't move towards a single standard for all I/O, whether it's USB-C or otherwise. Maybe there are technical limitations to supporting so many things in one spec, I'm not that deep into the weeds. Otherwise it's just incredibly wasteful to have all these different connectors, and it's anti-consumer. I mean I used to have a bag with 100 different cord types I'd have to rummage through every once in awhile to find what I needed. That shouldn't have to be a thing. Fortunately we're down to like 4-5 standards now...
8ytecoder 5y ago
It is function over form though. The number of times I thought I plugged in the charger and didn't do it properly and the number of times I tripped on the cable when working on the couch alone makes it worth it. The simple indicator light on the magsafe makes it so much easier to see and confirm that it's charging or it's fully charged.
- krrrh 5y ago
  It almost never gets commented on but you can sneeze on the usb-C ports on the MacBook Pro and they will unseat enough to stop charging. It’s a shame the standard didn’t get notches like lightning cable which can easily hold the weight of a dangling iPhone pro max.
hellbannedguy 5y ago
I'm pretty much done with buying any new Apple product, but the magsafe was brilliant years ago, and now. Plus--Apple senior citizens loved it, and probally saved many laptops from hitting the floor. (I will buy Apple used computers because their isn't much competition. There's a big part of me that would love a truly Hackers/Tinkerers computer. Jobs knew what the masses would buy. Wos knew what the tinkerers/inventors wanted. Wos wanted more ports, and so do I. Could anyone imagine a computer you could plug into your car, and it would delightful tell you what's wrong? (propriety issues aside) Or, a dvom. Or, having having a $50 accessory that would turn your computer into a oscilloscope. And yes--I know the market would be small now, but who knows what the future would bring. Or, adding a ham radio. Or, wifi chip that security professionals could use. And yes--I know their are third parties that make some I just mentioned, but we all know they usually come with hassels on Apple. This mythical computer would be only for the few true tinkerers out there. That is at first. It would be big bulky, but meant for repairability, and function would be it's only purpose, along with a reasonable price. I would happily pay $3000 for such a devise. Let Wos go crazy on a computer he really wanted, or wanted when he was in his 20's.)
sumedh 5y ago
> I didn't really find Magsafe that useful anyway Its like insurance, you dont need to for most part but then when luck is not on your side that is when you need it the most.

Yaina 5y ago

I would need to look it up and and of course it depends on the version, but afaik HDMI usually lags behind DisplayPort in terms of bandwidth and features. The SD-Card slot I can understand; for Magsafe I feels the same as you that I didn't really care for it, but HDMI... they might as well could have put a VGA port on there haha

ansgri 5y ago
I guess it’s for TVs and conference room projectors, these never support the DP, and thus it’s very much a real ‘pro’ feature for office work. So, SD for pro photo/video (and they are very right about full-size SDs here), HDMI for pro office, USB3 for everything else, seems legit.

plandis 5y ago

> I didn't really find Magsafe that useful anyway, as I'm pretty much always hooked up to a monitor via USB-C (which charges as well). I’m the complete opposite. I have to buy USB-C cables solely for MacBook Pro since nothing else I have uses it. I have plenty of HDMI and DP cables but literally only use USB-C on my laptop because I was forced to. Reverting back is a welcome change. USB-C only works as the only standard if you’re only buying relatively new tech products otherwise its the XKCD meme about an 11th standard. My tv doesn’t have usbc, my monitors don’t have usbc, my headphones and microphone still use a jack, my phone is no usbc, etc…

adam_arthur 5y ago
Yeah, but mac standardization was pushing all of those devices towards USB-C. I'm sure we'll get there eventually anyway, but it's a nice push towards standardization. It does create more friction in the short term though. I don't see any reason we shouldn't move towards a single standard for all I/O, whether it's USB-C or otherwise. Maybe there are technical limitations to supporting so many things in one spec, I'm not that deep into the weeds. Otherwise it's just incredibly wasteful to have all these different connectors, and it's anti-consumer. I mean I used to have a bag with 100 different cord types I'd have to rummage through every once in awhile to find what I needed. That shouldn't have to be a thing. Fortunately we're down to like 4-5 standards now...

8ytecoder 5y ago

It is function over form though. The number of times I thought I plugged in the charger and didn't do it properly and the number of times I tripped on the cable when working on the couch alone makes it worth it. The simple indicator light on the magsafe makes it so much easier to see and confirm that it's charging or it's fully charged.

krrrh 5y ago
It almost never gets commented on but you can sneeze on the usb-C ports on the MacBook Pro and they will unseat enough to stop charging. It’s a shame the standard didn’t get notches like lightning cable which can easily hold the weight of a dangling iPhone pro max.

hellbannedguy 5y ago

I'm pretty much done with buying any new Apple product, but the magsafe was brilliant years ago, and now. Plus--Apple senior citizens loved it, and probally saved many laptops from hitting the floor. (I will buy Apple used computers because their isn't much competition. There's a big part of me that would love a truly Hackers/Tinkerers computer. Jobs knew what the masses would buy. Wos knew what the tinkerers/inventors wanted. Wos wanted more ports, and so do I. Could anyone imagine a computer you could plug into your car, and it would delightful tell you what's wrong? (propriety issues aside) Or, a dvom. Or, having having a $50 accessory that would turn your computer into a oscilloscope. And yes--I know the market would be small now, but who knows what the future would bring. Or, adding a ham radio. Or, wifi chip that security professionals could use. And yes--I know their are third parties that make some I just mentioned, but we all know they usually come with hassels on Apple. This mythical computer would be only for the few true tinkerers out there. That is at first. It would be big bulky, but meant for repairability, and function would be it's only purpose, along with a reasonable price. I would happily pay $3000 for such a devise. Let Wos go crazy on a computer he really wanted, or wanted when he was in his 20's.)

sumedh 5y ago

> I didn't really find Magsafe that useful anyway Its like insurance, you dont need to for most part but then when luck is not on your side that is when you need it the most.