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>that (apparently) matches a 3070 I don't want to know the thermals on the laptop then. There is a reason for the 3070 being available with a minimum of 2 lar

>that (apparently) matches a 3070 I don't want to know the thermals on the laptop then. There is a reason for the 3070 being available with a minimum of 2 large fans and liquid cooling existing at all. How do you want to cool the same performance in a thin laptop? With passive airflow? For reference, this is what a laptop with the mobile (!) version of a 3070 looks like: https://gzhls.at/i/89/84/2618984-n1.jpg https://gzhls.at/i/89/84/2618984-n1.jpg It's also 1199 euros, just saying.

jzymbaluk 5y ago
I noticed the feet on this laptop seem a lot more prominent than previous iterations, and I'm sure the reason is to allow better airflow
- nicoburns 5y ago
  That would make a lot of sense. I've noticed that my 2015 MBP deals with heat a lot better if it's raised up off the surface it's sitting on.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  They do seem more prominent. It's not clear to me that's a cooling win, though? Unless there are actually some kind of vents on the bottom?
arecurrence 5y ago
3070 is Samsung 8nm vs what I believe they said was TSMC 5nm here? Being an all new architecture perhaps it also has more design thermal improvements.
lowbloodsugar 5y ago
The thermals: https://live.arstechnica.com/apple-october-18-unleashed-event/images/Screen%20Shot%202021-10-18%20at%2012.32.25%20PM.jpg https://live.arstechnica.com/apple-october-18-unleashed-even...
- schleck8 5y ago
  Passive airflow and a heatsink?
  - mastax 5y ago
    There's two fans so: not passive.
keymone 5y ago
given how m1 macs perform, thermals significantly better than any laptop with non-apple stuff inside. nvidia/amd just don't design with thermals in mind and that's exactly why you need to attach multiple helicopters to every piece of their hardware.
kolinko 5y ago
They claim m1 has 4x less power use when running at full speed, so thermal output will also be 4x less
- nine_k 5y ago
  CPU is completely dwarfed by GPU here.

jzymbaluk 5y ago

I noticed the feet on this laptop seem a lot more prominent than previous iterations, and I'm sure the reason is to allow better airflow

nicoburns 5y ago
That would make a lot of sense. I've noticed that my 2015 MBP deals with heat a lot better if it's raised up off the surface it's sitting on.
JohnBooty 5y ago
They do seem more prominent. It's not clear to me that's a cooling win, though? Unless there are actually some kind of vents on the bottom?

arecurrence 5y ago

3070 is Samsung 8nm vs what I believe they said was TSMC 5nm here? Being an all new architecture perhaps it also has more design thermal improvements.

lowbloodsugar 5y ago

The thermals: https://live.arstechnica.com/apple-october-18-unleashed-event/images/Screen%20Shot%202021-10-18%20at%2012.32.25%20PM.jpg https://live.arstechnica.com/apple-october-18-unleashed-even...

schleck8 5y ago
Passive airflow and a heatsink?
- mastax 5y ago
  There's two fans so: not passive.

keymone 5y ago

given how m1 macs perform, thermals significantly better than any laptop with non-apple stuff inside. nvidia/amd just don't design with thermals in mind and that's exactly why you need to attach multiple helicopters to every piece of their hardware.

kolinko 5y ago

They claim m1 has 4x less power use when running at full speed, so thermal output will also be 4x less

nine_k 5y ago
CPU is completely dwarfed by GPU here.